New Retina Macbook Pro - USB3.0 Compatible?

[feedserotonin]

I have an update for everyone. I'm using a Retina MacBook Pro running 10.7.4 and the Rig Kontrol 3 is working perfectly as far as I can tell.

I copied the IOUSBFamily kext file from another MacBook Pro running 10.7.3 and using Kext Wizard I installed the file.

Now, my USB 3.0 WD Passport hard drive is only capable of speeds up to 480Mb/s now but it still works properly. This of course is still a temporary fix until Apple can release an update so USB 2.0 AND 3.0 devices can both work in the same port, but I have to say, this is a huge step.

[mwn11]

Any chance to post a tutorial on how to do this? and where to get the file?

[djzeno]

mwn11 wrote: Why are there reports that serato works fine on the new usb 3 macs aswell as the pioneer controllers. Serato have previously updated their drivers to accomodate usb 3. If serato can do it, why cant NI?

This.

zephry, I understand you feel strongly that it is on someone other than NI to fix this issue. However, if your competition doesn't have the problem (read: Serato), then it reflects poorly on your brand image.

Most (if not all by now) laptops that are being released have usb 3.0, and in the case of the macbooks, 3.0 ports only. For me personally, everything else I own works just fine with these ports, except my Audio 8. So, stating that usb 3.0 is 'broken' is not accurate in this context.

I'm not trying to bash you or call you out, but the forums are filled with posts related to this matter. NI will have to address the issue, as this is a direct problem for their customers.

[feedserotonin]

It's not too difficult really, once you get the file. I was lucky enough that my brother's MacBook Pro was running 10.7.3 so I got the file.

Here's a link to the Kext File

Here's where to download the Kext Wizard

1) Launch Kext Wizard
2) Select the Installation tab
3) Click Browse and select the Kext file from the folder it was downloaded to
4) Check mark "backup kexts that will be replaced" This option will place a folder on your desktop of the USB 3.0 compatible Kext
5) Be sure the System/Library/Extentions folder is selected as the destination
6) Click Install and wait for the message saying it has completed
7) reboot your system

I hope this helps and let me know if you have questions.
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Just my opinion, everyone needs to stop bashing on Native Instruments, it's clearly not their fault. This is 100% on Apple and Intel for driver incompatibility.

EDIT: Just an FYI, this will cause all USB 3.0 devices run at USB 2.0 speeds. If you want to run your USB 3.0 devices at native speed, just reinstall the backup'd Kext file. It is a bit inconvenient but the best current solution.

[mwn11]

feedserotonin wrote: It's not too difficult really, once you get the file. I was lucky enough that my brother's MacBook Pro was running 10.7.3 so I got the file. Here's a link to the Kext File Here's where to download the Kext Wizard 1) Launch Kext Wizard 2) Select the Installation tab 3) Click Browse and select the Kext file from the folder it was downloaded to 4) Check mark "backup kexts that will be replaced" This option will place a folder on your desktop of the USB 3.0 compatible Kext 5) Be sure the System/Library/Extentions folder is selected as the destination 6) Click Install and wait for the message saying it has completed 7) reboot your system I hope this helps and let me know if you have questions. --- Just my opinion, everyone needs to stop bashing on Native Instruments, it's clearly not their fault. This is 100% on Apple and Intel for driver incompatibility.

I think i love you. Thanks so much! Works like a charm.

[feedserotonin]

mwn11 wrote: I think i love you. Thanks so much! Works like a charm.

Yeah dude you got it? Good man, I'm glad to be able to help people out with this. It's been pissing me off for almost 3 weeks and I just brainstormed this fix this morning and when I hit that first chord in Guitar Rig I was out of my mind stoked haha.

[mwn11]

yep works fine for me. Good thinking and findings! I think you just saved NI from loosing a few customers.

[feedserotonin]

mwn11 wrote: yep works fine for me. Good thinking and findings! I think you just saved NI from loosing a few customers.

Thanks man ha. Yeah like I said, it's not NIs fault at all. Definitely Apple/Intel.

[zephry]

So the trick above kinda proves it. Seratonin basically disabled 3.0 makinking it backwards compatible like 3.0 is said to be. Except you would have to manually switch back the same way every time you want to use a 3.0 speed.

So yeah is this Ni that needs to rewrite or the 3.0 dev or apple or whoever puts 3.0 on thier computers. I would say.

If the company that makes the computer says it is supposed to work a certain way then it is thier job.

as for serato people saying it works already. How did it get switched to 2.0 if the file and ablility iz not even there.

[htc_1518]

feedserotonin wrote: I have an update for everyone. I'm using a Retina MacBook Pro running 10.7.4 and the Rig Kontrol 3 is working perfectly as far as I can tell. I copied the IOUSBFamily kext file from another MacBook Pro running 10.7.3 and using Kext Wizard I installed the file. Now, my USB 3.0 WD Passport hard drive is only capable of speeds up to 480Mb/s now but it still works properly. This of course is still a temporary fix until Apple can release an update so USB 2.0 AND 3.0 devices can both work in the same port, but I have to say, this is a huge step.

hi there serotonin, would this work with the traktor kontrol s4? i have this macbook pro 13 mid 2012 and i reverted it back to 10.7.3 but i want to use 10.7.4 cause my fcetym,iphoto and i movie doesnt want to work with my current os. im planning to go back t0 10.7.4 if your tutorial will work. and i dont have any usb 3.0 devices anyway

[feedserotonin]

htc_1518 wrote: hi there serotonin, would this work with the traktor kontrol s4? i have this macbook pro 13 mid 2012 and i reverted it back to 10.7.3 but i want to use 10.7.4 cause my fcetym,iphoto and i movie doesnt want to work with my current os. im planning to go back t0 10.7.4 if your tutorial will work. and i dont have any usb 3.0 devices anyway

Yeah this will absolutely work. This method is just restoring to the 10.7.3 USB driver. And like I said, I'm running 10.7.4 on a retina MBP and all my USB devices work fine. Let me know how it works for you!

[Darrien]

feedserotonin wrote: I have an update for everyone. I'm using a Retina MacBook Pro running 10.7.4 and the Rig Kontrol 3 is working perfectly as far as I can tell.

Awesome news, man. My MBP-R will arrive in a few days. Was scared that nothing will work at all. I hope that NI/Apple solve the problem in a more user friendly way soon. But until then we at least have a solution.

Just a little sad that it was about the users to investigate all the stuff, while NI didnt bring up any statement or hint about their investigations at all.

[htc_1518]

feedserotonin can you give me your email add so i can ask questions im afraid of going back to 10.7.4 coz there is no bootable disk for the 10.7.3. its all downloaded now online, and probably that version now is 10.7.4 as well. here's my email htc_1518 AT yahoo.com

[Darrien]

@htc: you actually do not go back to anything. you simply replace the 10.7.4 usb driver with the 10.7.3 version. not to worry.

[vincelin]

Great work, feedserotonin! I'm kind of dissapointed that NI did not chime in here either.