Guitar Rig Problems

[SirPlorkenblog]

I'm running my guitar straight into my soundcard/line in slot. I have a 1/4" to 1/8" adapter on the end of the cord so it will fit. I'm not getting any distortion or any effect on my sound in GR though. I can hear my guitar playing through the speakers, but I can't get any effects to affect it, and when I put it on a preset with distortion it just makes a buzzing/static sound. Help?

[rangerwho]

The problem is your soundcard. You need to have a high-quality card with the lowest latency possible for Guitar Rig to
work properly.

I think that Native Instruments did a great disservice to its customers by not making it VERY clear that without a high-end soundcard..Guitar Rig would not work properly.

I did not know this prior to installing Guitar Rig and was very disappointed with the results. I had no idea about the requirement in terms of a card.

I am very disappoionted in Native Instruments & Guitar Rig...I have gotten more out of Amplitube...Than I have their product.

Good Luck

[PhoenixGTR]

In my opinion a pro (low-latency) audiocard is a worthwhile investment if one is serious about making music on one's computer, whether as a hobby or professionally. I couldn't imagine doing without one. They don't even have to be that expensive; I've seen them in the same price range as gamers or multimedia soundcards.

[BuleriaChk]

Purchasing a program like Guitar Rig with a junk audo card is not an indicator of sound intelligence.......:-)

Guitar Rig works just fine with Guitar Port as a sound card (a $100 investment, plus you get a lot of Line 6's models as well)

[clevermind]

Hi,

The sound you are earing is the unprocessed sound ( when things will work, you will have to mute the audio input you use to get rid of it).

What it your soundcard brand ?

Which audio driver type and wich audio driver have you choosen in GR ?

With GR standalone, you can use Direct Sound , but it is better to use asio :
download asio4all , install it without uninstalling anything, then select asio as the driver type and asio4all as the audio driver in GR (check audio input and output too).

It will work even with motherboard integrated audio (at least , just to try).

[vtubes]

BuleriaChk wrote: Guitar Rig works just fine with Guitar Port as a sound card (a $100 investment, plus you get a lot of Line 6's models as well)

well, guitarport is a USB1.1 device.
USB1.1-bandwidth isn't good enough for real low-latency. for lower latency you should better get a PCI based (PCMCIA for laptops), USB2.0 or Firewire audio-interface.


greetz,
vtubes

[EL34xyz]

If you are going to spend that much money on GR, you need to do all the other things it takes to get the job done properly.

#1 - You cannot plug a guitar directly into a sound card, you need a pre-amp between your guitar and the line in jack.

#2 - I got GR to work just fine with a cheapo Soundblaster live 5.1 card and ASIO4All. The latency was around 13ms which was fine for the demo and so I bought GR. I upgraded to The SB audigy platinum soundcard because it was cheap on newegg.com. It ended up being a much better card then the Live 5.1 card and the Audigy card cost.

#3 - You have to learn how to work the mixer program and GR to get everything working properly. This is not a plug and play deal, you have to be willing to spend some time.

[BuleriaChk]

I get around 5 ms. latency (in Sonar, Ableton Live, etc.), which is fine for me, using ASIO. Since I am generally just recording guitar, and not using too many backing tracks, it works great.

And (to repeat) I get all the great GP models as well, so can mix and match or use either ndependently.....

I never use my Indigo I/O any more (anyone want to buy it....:-)

vtubes wrote: well, guitarport is a USB1.1 device. USB1.1-bandwidth isn't good enough for real low-latency. for lower latency you should better get a PCI based (PCMCIA for laptops), USB2.0 or Firewire audio-interface. greetz, vtubes

[vindes]

The problem you're describing is from the way you have the default mixer settings configured for your soundcard.

If you can bring up the Playback and Recording device mixer panels through whatever your soundcard software is (e.g., SoundMAX control panel or Creative Control panel or something like that) you need to change two things.

On the Playback panel, mute the Line In input. That will stop you from hearing your guitar just echoed to your speakers. On the Recording panel make sure Line In is enabled/unmuted. By default Microphone will generally be selected as the recording device, and this blocks the Line In input from making it through to Guitar Rig.

[edit: if you're running with a minimalist sound driver installation all you'll get is the default windows mixer panel, which I don't think has the recording device section. If this is the case I think you'll need to upgrade to the fuller SoundMAX or Creative install.]

As mentioned in above messages, if you're using something like SoundMAX onboard audio or a SoundBlaster Live card definitely get the asio4all drivers installed. They work fantastically.

And I beg to differ with the people that say don't use Guitar Rig with onboard audio or SoundBlaster type cards. You can get 5ms latency without a problem with asio4all. And you don't need 96KHz 24bit for generating noise, grunge, grit and emulating the "incredibly bad" frequency response characteristics of the speaker cabinets that sound so good. I'd venture to say you'll get higher quality audio with a SoundBlaster than you'd have found in an average recording studio in the 70s. Unless you want to argue all that stuff sounded like crap too.

[EL34xyz]

I am getting 2ms delay with the SB Audigy 2 ZS card and the Creative ASIO driver that came with the card.

The Audigy card sounds way better to me than the SB live 5.1 and ASIOforall (13ms) driver that I was using for the demo.

[Dashmusic]

Hi group. I got a soundmax sound card. but it cant detect my guitar or pedal.....Do i need a newer driver?

[PhoenixGTR]

What are your audio settings in GR?

SoundMax is the onboard audio, isn't it? See my above post about pro audio cards. If it's a laptop, there are also some good firewire interfaces under $200.