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GRIP Grain Cloud Synth 1.9

Supports MPE, adapted for Komplete/Maschine

(165 Votes)
1.9 (Updated 5 months ago)
20.3MB
March 17, 2014
Reaktor 6

DESCRIPTION

GRIP Polyphonic Grain Cloud Synth
Uwe G. Hoenig, 2018

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Version 1.9 includes some adaptions for using GRIP with Komplete/Maschine. Big thanks to Stephen Wey for this! See the version history below for details.

Note: Needs Reaktor 6.2.1 or newer now. Version 1.8 (which is compatible with Reaktor 5.9.2) is included in the download.
Compatible with existing presets.

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Videos
- Some presets (same sounds as in the audio example in the user lib):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2SRr4raXhM
- A live demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IvVz3q94KY

Help and contact
To contact me please use the comments in the Reaktor user library:
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/7775/

GRIP
• is an instrument between sampler and synth
• is based on Reaktor's Grain Cloud module
• is a late successor to my "Travelizer" from the NI library
• offers a nice set of samples and presets
• can be played polyphonically from a MIDI keyboard or other controllers, including MPE controllers
• comes with a Lemur template for Lemur on iPad
• produces a great variety of sounds, depending on the samples and settings
• offers extensive and some rather unique modulation possibilities
• can also be used with live audio input

Some tech specs
• granular synthesis based on pre-loaded samples or live input
• up to 30 simultaneous grains per voice
• granular parameters include pitch, pitch slide, position, legth, distance, gain, envelope and various jitter parameters
• can use stereo samples, signal path is stereo throughout
• live audio in is mono only (will be stereo soon)
• LP/BP/HP filter (stereo)
• two LFOs, polyphonic
• four envelope generators, polyphonic
• one envelope follower, polyphonic
• two random generators, polyphonic
• a reverb (taken from "Prism"), polyphonic (yes!) and with modulatable reverb time
• a simple delay effect with feedback
• the panel includes many LEDs for visualizing the modulations, this layout is made for six-voice polyphony

Requirements
• Reaktor 5.9.2 or newer
• GRIP can be quite CPU-intensive; reduce the instrumet's voices if you encounter crackles etc.
• a current-generation i5/i7 cpu is recommended for 6-voice polyphony (GRIP's default)

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To play GRIP
- use GRIP as a plugin instance or stand-alone, both work fine
- start the clock in Reaktor stand alone / the playback of your DAW (as GRIP uses the clock for various modulations)
- select the GRIP instrument, choose a preset bank and a preset
- feed it some MIDI note, modwheel and aftertouch data
Tip: Start with panel "B" which shows only the most important parameters and makes it easier to explore them

To go a little deeper
- try the BIG knobs first when tweaking presets
- try choosing other samples for a given preset (with the big Sample knob under the ugh logo) – and load your own samples
- right click on the white label bar above the sample display to access the sample map and to load samples
- activate Reaktor's info function to get some mouseover info for the knobs etc.
- see the info on the "G R I P" label next to the ugh logo for a list of modulation sources
- see the info on the "Grain Cloud Synth" label for some more info regarding modulation
- get familiar with the modulation slots that you find all across the panel, see next section
- if your keyboard sends poly pressure, try replacing "CPress" (channel pressure) modulation sources with "PP1" (poly pressure); you need to send notes and poly pressure on MIDI channel 1 for this to work

To change or set up modulations
- each modulation slot consists of two flip menus, an intensity parameter, an on/off switch and six LEDs for the six voices
- each flip menu selects a modulation source, the two sources get multiplied (think of sidechaining: Modwheel controls LFO to pitch mod)
- choose a mod source in one menu and "On" in the other for a simple modulation without sidechaining
- set the mod intensity by dragging on the value field and switch the modulation on (with the small round switch)

To use live audio instead of samples
- use "Reaktor FX" as insert effect on an audio track
- activate the "Live" switch in the lower left corner
- the "Sample" frame is replaced by an "Audio In" frame
- feed Reaktor some audio, check and set recording level
- choose something like "1/8" to trigger the amp envelope
- recording is active as soon as you enter live mode; use "Freeze" to halt it
- recorded audio CANNOT be stored with presets
- recorded audio is LOST when switching between sample and live in mode

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Short reference

• Modulation sources:
Vel = MIDI note velocity, unipolar
Rel Vel = MIDI note release velocity, unipolar
Note = MIDI note number; centered, bipolar
PBend = MIDI pitch bend, bipolar
CPrs = MIDI channel pressure, unipolar
PPrs = MIDI poly pressure, unipolar
ModWh = MIDI CC1, modulation wheel, unipolar
CC 74 = MIDI CC 74, used by MPE controllers, unipolar

LFO1, LFO 2 = the two LFOs, unipolar or bipolar
EnvF = envelope follower, unipolar
LinEnv = linear envelope, unipolar
ModEnv = modulation envelope, unipolar
FiltEnv = filter envelope, unipolar
AmpEnv = amp envelope, unipolar

Curv = curve below the wave display, unipolar
Rnd1, Rnd2 = the two random generators, unipolar
DispY = y axis on the wave display
NGate = MIDI note gate (no velocity), unipolar

1/4 - 16/T = rhythmical pulses, 50% length, unipolar

X, Y, Z = the corresponding controls on the panel; these can be switched between monophonic and polyphonic (-> affecting the voices individually), unipolar
VcSprd = mod value increases with voice number, unipolar

PP1, PP2, PP3 = poly pressure on MIDI ch 1, 2, 3 (hard-wired – be sure to send notes on the corresponding channel)

On = 'on' switch (=1)
Half = a value of 0.5 (use this to quickly scale a mod source – or if you can't decide between 'on' and 'off' ;-)
Off = 'off' switch (=0)
Inverse = "-1" to inverse the signal from the other mod input slot

• (Re)Trigger sources
(on the envs, the LFOs and grain distance)
Note = MIDI note on
Grain = start of a new grain
Grid = hitting a new line on the position grid
N & Gr = 'Note' and 'Grid' trigger combined
STNote = Single Trigger Note, monophonic
ZBttn = the 'Z' macro button on the panel
4/1 - 16T = rhythmical triggers
AnyPC = any MIDI program change message is used as trigger
AnyCC = any MIDI CC message is used as trigger; gate is held as long as the cc value changes
PC&CC = AnyPC and Any CC combined

• Time quantization sources
(on various parameter modulations)
Off = no time quantization occurs
1/1 - 1/16T = quantization on chosen beat value
NoteOn = quantization occurs on MIDI note on

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Version history

1.9 (2018-03-13)
Includes some adaptions for using GRIP with Komplete/Maschine. Big thanks to Stephen Wey for this! He writes:
- reduced the automation IDs in the easy panel to ones that KK can use (they were far too high)
- added a built in mapping for KK/Maschine with organised tabs,
- added meta tags for the presets so KK can 'see' it as an instrument synth
- applied the mapping to all snapshots. It's all built into the ens - people just need to import it.

1.8 (2018-03-07)
- When related to note pitch information, "Distance" now also receives pitch values including glide (portamento), rather than only the current note numbers.

1.7 (2018-01-29)
- GRIP now offers support for MPE controllers like Linnstrument and Roli Seaboard.
Use the MPE switch in the bottom left corner to activate it. Leave it off if you don't use an MPE controller. With MPE, pitch bend, channel pressure and CC 74 are received separately for each voice, which allows for more expression. If MPE is on, GRIP expects notes which are distributed across midi channels 2 to 7 while midi channel 1 serves as the basic channel.

The switch labeled "CC 74>1" below the MPE switch routes CC 74 ("Slide" or "Timbre" in MPE-speak, sent from all MPE controllers) to GRIP's "ModWheel" (CC 1) modulation inputs. In other words: CC 74 is treated as modulation wheel, which makes it very easy to adapt existing presets (which usually use ModWheel for some modulation) to MPE. Simply activate both buttons and play through the snapshots with your MPE controller to see how they respond. Bank 7 features some new sounds which were made with MPE in mind, start with those.
When MPE is on, the pitch bend range parameter changes to offer you 24 or 48 semitones of pitch bend range.

Both switches, "MPE" and "CC 74>1", as well as the MPE pitch bend range parameter are considered system settings and are NOT stored with the presets.

- New modulation sources:
Rel Vel: release velocity (only a few midi keyboards but all MPE controllers send this)
CC 74: midi controller 74, which is sent by all MPE controllers. See the note above for routing this to "ModWheel".
Inverse: this corresponds to "-1" and is meant to inverse the source that is chosen in the other mod input slot

- The "Gain Dir" switch now offers a new option "auto" for the grain playback direction. With "auto", grains are played forward if the playhead moves from left to right, and backwards, if the playhead moves from right to left. This allows for more natural and smoother scrubbing effects.

- The Amp Envelope now has a "steady" switch. Activate it if you want to "bypass" the amp envelope (meaning that its output is set to max all the time). This can be useful for live mode or if you plan to use channel pressure to modulate gain, for a more bowed than plucked loudness control.


1.6 (2018-01-16)
- disables the workaround from v1.5 and includes a different approach to avoid the pitch bug

1.5 (2018-01-14)
- Includes a workaround for the annoying pitch bug ("new note starts with the pitch of a previous note"). The workaround removes this unwanted behaviour in most cases. Please ler me know via comments if it works for you.

1.4 (2017-12-27)
- GRIP now offers an EASY mode: on panel "B" only the most important parameters are visible, which makes it easier and more convenient to explore them. You can switch between panel B or A at any time to get the reduced and "easy" view or acces to all parameters, respectively. Panel B is also a good starting point if you don't plan to use many modulations but want to automate GRIP's knobs from your DAW.
To start making a new sound on panel B, please select a snapshot template from the "EASY" bank. These snapshots are tailored to panel B and have all the invisible modulations turned off.

1.3 (2016-06-27)
- cleaned up automation IDs
- included a more useful default preset
- fixed some small things

1.2 (2014-11-02)
- GRIP now includes a Lemur template (iPad) for performing with the synth. The template can send five independent MIDI poly pressure signals to the synth (on five different MIDI channels) which allows for very expressive per-note modulations. Two of the poly pressure signals are generated with "RoboKnobs" from SAVEAS which can record, play back and loop knob movements (see here: https://liine.net/en/community/user-library/view/467/). More info on how to set up and use the Lemur template can be found in a Read me file in the ZIP.
- the modulation source menus in GRIP now includes PP1 ... PP6 for six poly pressure streams (on MIDI channel 1...6). These entrys moved to the end of the sources list. If you made presets using the older PP1...PP3 entrys, these assignments now show up as "dummy 1...3". Please change these to the new PP entrys (besides that, all presets are full compatible with version 1.2). The "dummy" entrys and PP6 are reserved for future use.
- added some presets for the Lemur to get you started
- the bank "21010" with live in presets from Bernd Kreil was added (thanks!)
- the non-working modulation entrys for "Freeze" (in live in mode) were fixed
- the sine oscillator in the Sample frame now receives pitch bend

1.1 (2014-03-29)
- some new presets, optimized some presets
- added preset bank "201228" from Bernd Keil with 42 new sounds (thanks!)
Improved live input mode:
- added 20 presets for live input mode
- feedback now works when GRIP is set to more than one voice
- live input mode can operate in strereo now; the wave display shows only the left channel
- a small switch in the Audio in frame enables stereo mode (this increases CPU load, so activate only when needed)
- can also work polyphonically now; each voice gets the same audio from the outside, but its own feedback signal. To save CPU, use 1 voice unless you REALLY want live input mode to work polyphonically.
- feedback now has a switch for cross feedback and a modulation slot for feedback intensity
- added some modulation sources for Freeze

1.0.1 (2014-03-19)
- Fixes the lousy panning (balance) implementaion of v1.0 – NOW the samples play in stereo and pan jitter works. Expect broader sounds. :-) Thanks, Paul!

1.0 (2014-03-17)
- Initial release




COMMENTS  (186)

Uwe G. Hoenig
1 month ago
Hi Brett, Reaktor also has a button for opening the sample map editor (top part of the GUI, somewhere to the right...), you can use that as well. The other way is opening it using the context menu on the white label bar above the waveform display.
Brett Mohr
1 month ago
I can't seem to open the sample map editor. Right-clicking in the area of the bar as noted does nothing for me. Is there another way to open this? anyone else having this issue? I'm on a mac with Ableton 9. Thanks!
Tj Shredder
4 months ago
Thanks so much this is a blast with my LinnStrument
jace cavacini
4 months ago
Hello Uwe, i am testing out the current version and i do not immediately notice the pitch bug discussed previously. i think it might be corrected. i've not noticed anything else in regard to this change, since i hadn't tried to create any projects with this instrument yet (any other changes are too subtle for me to notice). Thanks for this change!
Paule
5 months ago
Hello Uwe, now it sounds again like AmbieGarde. Zhank you.
Uwe G. Hoenig
5 months ago
Hi Paule, I noticed some similar weirdness ("Inverse" with mod value of 127) in some presets after uploading v 1.9. I also noticed that the sine osc got wrong pitch information. So I corrected those things and uploaded again, maybe half an hour later. Still as v 1.9. Please try to download this version again and see if it solves the problems.
Paule
5 months ago
Uwe, in v1.4 my snaps works. Example 'mices on th run' has a sample mod on value 127 dummy 1 (is now inverse). v1.9: If switched to off Modulation one it works in the old manner. Second the osc sound: Sine Octv in middle position must set to zero. In your own snaps from bank one it's the same! If you set Inverse to off and SineOctv to zero - all is fine. I correct all snapshots from bank 1 and two - I load them up - you can take over
Uwe G. Hoenig
5 months ago
Stephen, I uploaded your adapted version as v1.9. Thank you very much for this contribution!
Uwe G. Hoenig
5 months ago
Hi Paule, the sound might come from the sine oscillator in Grip and you samples seem to be missing. Open the sample map editor and check if they are shown in red. If so, load them again, then activate "embed" next to each sample entry in order to store the samples within the ens. Hope this helps.
Paule
5 months ago
Uwe, since this year in most of my snapshots is no sample available and a nasty continous sound accompanied the nothing.
Stephen Wey
5 months ago
Great I took down the link I'm following the guidelines I put together in this thread: https://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/reaktor-ensemble-integration.325531/ Really this may be worth all future Reaktor developers following as it makes it easier to integrate Reaktor into the Komplete/maschine ecosystem
Uwe G. Hoenig
5 months ago
Got it!
Stephen Wey
5 months ago
Can't see a way to pm this so here's a link, I'll disable it when you tell me you have it https://www.dropbox.com/s/572vhs85dzc8pbd/GRIP%20Grain%20Cloud%20Synth%201.8.ens.zip?dl=1
Stephen Wey
5 months ago
Sure, I didn't want to post it myself as these are minor changes really, just reduced the automation IDs in the easy panel to ones that KK can use (they were far too high), then added a built in mapping for KK/Maschine with organised tabs, added meta tags for the presets so KK can 'see' it as an instrument synth, and then applied the mapping to all snapshots. It's all built into the ens - people just need to import it. I'll pm you the link.
Uwe G. Hoenig
5 months ago
Hi Stephen, thank you for your offer! I wouldn't want to maintain two versions, but we could make your modification the new "official" one. Is it based on v 1.8? And could you post a (temporary) download link, so I can take a look?
Stephen Wey
5 months ago
I've made an adapted version of this to work in Komplete Kontrol and Maschine (including with importable presets and mapped controls for the Easy page) - do you want to add it?
Uwe G. Hoenig
5 months ago
Hi Vagelis, only from the module properties...
Vagelis M
5 months ago
Great update! I have a question about the graincloud module,is there another way to change the number of the grains except from the module where says grain overlap?Is it possible with a knob or only from the module itself?Thanks!
Bob Schrei
5 months ago
stunning! Just what I have been waiting for!
Greg Killmaster
5 months ago
Thank you Uwe! This is such a brilliant instrument in so many ways. The results I can get are unique among synths. Thanks so much for it. Will be using it a lot!
Uwe G. Hoenig
5 months ago
With Inertia I mean those small knobs all across the panel which smooth the values from knbs and modulation slots.
Greg Killmaster
5 months ago
The interactivity of this, with mouse and keyboard, is so well done. It feels so robust in this way! Thank you!
Greg Killmaster
5 months ago
How do you set inertia please?
Uwe G. Hoenig
5 months ago
PS: When you switch snapshots, high "Inertia" values can cause some kind of value crossfade for their respective parameter (between the old and the new snap). This has nothing to do with the portamento effect you like to achieve.
Uwe G. Hoenig
5 months ago
Hi Denzel, I think the reason for your problems was bad design on my side. Please try v 1.8 to see if things have improved. But please keep in mind that "Distance" - not "Pitch" – can determine the perceived pitch when small distance values are used. If you want to apply portamento to distance in such cases, you need to set the Distance grid to something note related (like "Note Octaves").
Denzel Cromwell
5 months ago
*that isn't portamento
Denzel Cromwell
5 months ago
My favorite instrument in the user library, but im having a little trouble with utilizing portamento when put in my own samples. When i turn the glide up next to the keytrack button in pitch (as well as inertia), i hear no effect. But when I save my project then open again, i hear some sort of gliding effect this isn't portamento, but then that goes away after the sequence loops once. Would reallly appreciate some help with this. Using Logic Pro X btw. Thanks
Alex Enkerli
6 months ago
Did try it with my Eigenharp Pico. Using breath to control the filter’s cutoff frequency along with gain. Works like a charm. Will still require practice and exploration for me to use it in a more serious way. But it’s viscerally fun to play with sound in this way.
Uwe G. Hoenig
6 months ago
Thank you all for your kind words! I'm glad that it works for you and that you're having fun!
Alex Enkerli
6 months ago
Wow. Excellent work! You’ve really surpassed yourself, Uwe! There aren’t many MPE-savvy synths out there, at this point, but this might be one of the most creative. Funnily enough, around the time you were releasing 1.7, ended up participating in a music-focused Maker Faire as the “Symphony Hack Lab” surrounding family concerts at the National Arts Centre. Should have set up GRIP with a Lightpad Block so kids could discover the wonders of playing with sound. There should be other events like this and will probably get some knobs in there as well. Wasn’t getting MPE to work, at first. Hadn’t read the release notes in the RTF and wasn’t noticing the MPE. Also had the issue with the number of voices until noticing, in the ensemble, that it was set to six MPE channels. The MPE-friendly patches really do help. Nice job there as well! Will surely explore this ensemble more extensively, including with my Eigenharp Pico. Apart from providing us with one of the most unique instruments around, my sincere hope is that your work will inspire other people to start adding MPE to their ensembles. Since Reaktor ensembles are pretty much self-documenting (and the MPE support doesn’t sound incredibly complicated to add), that could really open up a new world. Thanks again!!
Greg Killmaster
6 months ago
Thanks for Thala, I finally got this to work. Turns out I had the voices set to 16 in stead of 8. Once I set my keyboard to 8 voices, everything snapped into place. This ensemble is such a great step unique step and for me the expression controls make this really pretty special! Thank you!
Chris Phan
6 months ago
That works beautifully. Thank you!!!
Uwe G. Hoenig
6 months ago
Hi Chris, thanks for your report. Please try the following to see if improves the loudness of the first grain: Open the ens structure and go into the macro "Controllers" (upper left corner). Look for the "AMP ENVELOPE" macro there and go inside. You will see an AR envelope which has a constant of "0" attached to its A input. Change the value of that constant to "-100". And try again... does that work for you?
Chris Phan
6 months ago
Thanks for the update! Here's my report for version 1.7: - Amp ADSR is great now. Very snappy, but: - The first triggered grain is very quiet? This is only noticeable when both length and distance are set to relatively high. It even shows in the LED display. The first grain triggers a duller light compared to the ones afterwards. - Sample display occasionally disappears? Not a big deal though because it still makes sound when that happened to me. Other than that, it's great. I didn't notice any left-right channel imbalance either.
Greg Killmaster
6 months ago
I'm curious if any of you for whom its working is using a Roli Seaboard RISE. I'm starting to wonder if my keyboard could be defective.
Bob Schrei
6 months ago
An already outstanding ensemble, and adding MPE is the cherry on top! Thank You. Remarkable work. Working with this could take me years!
Marko Ahokangas
6 months ago
Very nice. for some reason I get more signal to left channel than right. I am just trying thru different presets and it seem like most of them are having this issue.
Greg Killmaster
6 months ago
Yes, thanks so much for all the work. I'll try and figure it out on my end and report back...
Thala Estra
6 months ago
sorry, don`t have much time today. after 20 minutes toying around and exploring setting everything seems fine over here! can`t reproduce Gregs issues yet. thank you so much Uwe for all this work and sharing it for free!
Uwe G. Hoenig
6 months ago
Hi Greg, I'm sorry, I have no idea what this could be. I'm on Mac as well. Maybe you could try to reduce the Control Rate for the ens, but that's just an idea... Let's see what others report. :-/
Greg Killmaster
6 months ago
Hi Uwe, I checked again and still the same thing for me here. after a short time, the note response seems laggy and non responsive. I reset everything and started fresh in Reaktor standalone. With Midi Monitor open, I can see all the correct messages are sent. And it works fine in Equator. All axis getting passed to my mac including release velocity. Wonder if it could be mac related?
Uwe G. Hoenig
6 months ago
Hi Greg, thank you for your feedback. I checked again, and CC 74 works fine here, either when used as CC 74 or when mapped to ModWheel. Same with pitch bend/Glide. This is in Reaktor stand-alone. How are you playing the ens, in a DAW? Is it possible that there is some midi buffer overflow happening in your setup which causes midi dropouts...? Thanks again!
Greg Killmaster
6 months ago
oops, I meant to say that Slide parameter doesn't seem to work, even when its mapped to modulation.
Greg Killmaster
6 months ago
Wow! Great to see! For me, using Seaboard RISE, Glide (pitchbend) works when I switch to a new preset, but then stops working once I play another axis. Seems to be the case when its mapped to modulation as well. In some cases, its stops responding to my playing entirely. Then intermittently starts again, seemingly randomly. And I can't confirm that Slide (y-axis) is working or not. Would be great to have indicator showing that its receiving MPE input as I play the Seaboard (or Linnstrument). Thank you! So great to see you moving this foward!! Be happy to be a guinea pig if need be...
Uwe G. Hoenig
6 months ago
Ok, so here is version 1.7 with MPE support, tested with a Seaboard Blocks. I hope this works well for you, let me know if you find anything strange. I have added some more little things, see the version history below. Amp Env behaviour should be better now as well. Have fun!
Thala Estra
6 months ago
and yes, Y/Timbre (CC74) is Linnstrument/Bitwig speech :) this will be so awesome. it already is with out MPE... could you please add a switch to the AMP envelope section, which knocks out the ADSR completly and will take the channel aftertouch for "Amping" the Volume instead? this enables bowed alike sounds, and is at least on my Linn very good playable! just multiply the Volume by pressure, this works fine everywhere so far :)
Thala Estra
6 months ago
please do it changeable, since Linnstruments are working with +/-24.
Chris Phan
6 months ago
Great news, Uwe. Hoping to see the ADSR fix in this update.
6 months ago
This is a very impressive synth! Thanks for sharing.
Uwe G. Hoenig
6 months ago
Hi Thala, if you refer to CC 74 (or "Slide" in Roli-speak), yes. Do you think it's ok to fix the pitch bend range to 48 semitones in MPE mode? Or is there a need to choose between 24 and 48 semitones?
Thala Estra
6 months ago
i`m so exited to get my hands on. is it possible to move the playhead via Y/Timbre of mpe keyboards?
Uwe G. Hoenig
6 months ago
MPE support is done and will come in Version 1.7, but I want do make some additional sounds first...
Uwe G. Hoenig
6 months ago
Thala, thank you! The macro from Roli seems to be just what I need to get started...
Thala Estra
6 months ago
if you want to work with less than 16 mpe voices please search for MPE here in the uploads. you will find some ensemble/blocks with reduced voice distribution macros already done there.
Thala Estra
6 months ago
thanks for this ensemble. MPE would be wonderful. over here you get help and a MPE macro for free use (confirmed by Roli): https://support.roli.com/article/using-the-seaboard-with-reaktor/ and here you can find some help from Roger Linn: http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/ls-creating-sounds.html if you are looking for MPE tester or need any help to get started: just call us in the forum. we will help in any possible way.
Uwe G. Hoenig
6 months ago
Hi Alex, thanks again! MPE is a good idea, will check how this can be done. Should be better in the long run than the "poly pressure on multiple midi channels" thing I implemented for the Lemur template...
Alex Enkerli
6 months ago
Consistently impressed by this ensemble. As usual, thank you so much for your good work, Uwe! Still wish this were a standalone product. Would make for a very useful AUv3 plugin on iOS. Even when overwhelming the CPU (not too hard to do on a 2012 MacBook Pro), it ends up sounding pretty neat, at least with some of the glitchier samples. A suggestion or feature request: MPE support? Could make for some fun musicking (or performance). Shouldn’t be too hard as there are some Reaktor ensembles meant specifically for MPE. Originally tried this ensemble assigning knobs on an Alesis Vmini controller to a few controls. But it could make even more sense with my ROLI Lightpad or Eigenharp Pico. Will also try with the Leap Motion and Geco. Might even assign breath control and a dancemat to some of the virtual knobs. Altogether, the controls (especially with the “B panel”) lead to just the right type of audible result. So, assigning all sorts of controllers can be really inspiring.
Vagelis M
6 months ago
Thanks Uwe this works also.But wouldn't be nice also instead of using only lfo to achieve this ,to have this speed knob ? this way can modulate smoother the speed from forward to backward,or freeze the sound and to start from this speed when it resets by note.Anyway for now i m happy also as it is :)
Uwe G. Hoenig
7 months ago
Hi Vagelis, what you describe does not need a speed knob, but can be done via modulating the position with an LFO. See the snapshot "EASY with LFO on Position" in the EASY bank for a starting point. In short: - Choose an LFO as mod input in the Position section, switch the modulation on and set the intensity to "1" (which means: travel through the entire sample, of course you could use another intensity). - On the LFO, choose if you want to sync it to the beat and set "Note" as source for retriggering. Stay with the triangle wave (fader to the left), set the desired rate and use the "Sym" parameter to choose between rising sawtooth (plays forward in the sample), triangle (back and forth) or falling sawtooth (backwards). This should do what you want.
Vagelis M
7 months ago
Hi Uwe,I didn't explain well about midi note sorry!.What i wanted to say is when the note is triggered, to start playing the sample from start depending on which value is the speed-position knob and when the note ends to stop playing the sample. Also another nice option for experimenting could be to loop continuously, no matter the note length.
Chris Phan
7 months ago
Ah I see. Take your time, Uwe!
Uwe G. Hoenig
7 months ago
Hi Vagelis, thanks for your feedback. A knob like you describe it is something I already want to do in a future update. But how should "when is triggered with midi note it could read the sample at different speed from start to end depending on length of midi note" work? To determine playback speed I would need to know the length of the midi note at the moment it starts... and before it ends. Maybe I don't understand it right, could you explain?
Vagelis M
7 months ago
Thank you for this ! Really nice and clean granular modulations, enjoying!One request if is possible to add another mode for position with a knob that could read position forward on the right,in the middle to freeze,and left to go backwards?Will be very useful for stretching sound and controlling better the position except the lfo or envs.Plus when is triggered with midi note it could read the sample at different speed from start to end depending on length of midi note.Thanks!
Uwe G. Hoenig
7 months ago
Chris, thank you for your feedback. The amp envelope behaviour you describe is in fact related to my change, because the envelope feeds the Amp input of the Grain Cloud module now, instead of being routed to a amp that follows the module. This way, the envelope controls the volume of each grain at the time it is started. This has two effects: the volume of the actual grains is driven to zero when a voice fades out (because of amp env release), which seems to be the key for avoiding the pitch bug. But it also means that the amp envelope's resolution now depends on the grain length: only when a new grain starts, the env value gets read. Once it is playing, the amp env doesn't effect it. I should probably feed the env directly to the grain cloud module but also to an amp following it to get both, proper pitch and snappiness. I'll try to optimize this for the next version.
Chris Phan
7 months ago
Don't be sorry for the update spam. Your work is immensely appreciated. I feel like I'm the real bug spammer here.
Chris Phan
7 months ago
I think it's finally been fixed, congrats!! But did it come at the expense of less snappy Amp ADSR (especially the Attack and Release)? I also notice that the very first grain now tends to sound much softer than the ones coming afterwards. It's more noticeable when Distance is set to high, together with a fast Amp Attack. Please find an example of what I'm describing here: https://goo.gl/k8SZP7
Paule
7 months ago
cpu power around 35% is okay
Greg Killmaster
7 months ago
Love the way this is so playable with MIDI keyboard. Thanks so much for this!
Uwe G. Hoenig
7 months ago
Hi, I think I finally found a way to avoid those pitch blips... Chris? @Giorgio: will investigate. A higher cpu load (and better sound) might result from using the "Link2Distnc" mode for the Length parameter – because I increased the max value to allow for more overlapping grains. But this shouldn't affect cpu load for sounds which use another Length scale.
GIORGIO INZAGHI
7 months ago
Thanks, but version 1.5 is CPU out of control.
Chris Phan
7 months ago
Yes that's exactly what I was trying to describe. I'm going to send NI an e-mail about this, so we'll see...
Uwe G. Hoenig
7 months ago
@Chris: every voice starts with the pitch it had when it was last triggered and plays that pitch for a short time (one or several grains..). So yes, it is related to the voices and varies with the chosen voice assignment scheme.
Paule
7 months ago
Thanks again, Uwe
Chris Phan
7 months ago
Given that your instrument allows for 6-voice polyphony, I feel like that might be related somehow? Perhaps if the first voice hasn't finished its release phase, playing the 7th voice will confuse it? However, even when I turn the release all the way down, the problem still persists so I'm not sure. Also, when I play slowly enough, the problem doesn't happen. I hope that helps
Chris Phan
7 months ago
Thank you, Uwe. Unfortunately the problem persists for me, but I think I might have found more clues for your investigation. After playing around a little more, I find that the "random pitch" always starts at the 7th voice. For example, when I play C-D-E-F-G-A-B, the problem always starts at the B, and it's not random but starts all over from the 1st voice (the C) and repeats what I play. Here's a visualization in case that didn't make sense: https://pasteboard.co/H2VPfeq.jpg
rick scott
7 months ago
Wow.
Philippe Loiseau
7 months ago
beautiful, again
Uwe G. Hoenig
7 months ago
Hi Chris and jace, please check if this new version works better for you. Thans, Uwe
Uwe G. Hoenig
7 months ago
Chris, I took a look at Frame 3, but this instrument has only one grain allowed (overlap in the grain cloud module properties set to "1"). You can do the same with Grip, and this removes the pitch glitch. But it also completely alters the sound, because there is no grain "cloud" then, just one lonely grain at a time which produces a very thin and "rrrrobotic" sound....
Chris Phan
7 months ago
I don't know if this will help, but Frame 3 is also a grain cloud-based ensemble and I don't find it to have any pitch problem: https://reaktortips.com/2013/05/frame-3-free-creative-sampler-for.html Also, this is unrelated but Reason's new granular synth is really neat and I think you might be interested: https://youtu.be/Mb4EEWedQKM
Chris Phan
7 months ago
That's unfortunate because GRIP seems like the most powerful granular synth that I can find, including non-Reaktor paid VSTs. I hope you'll be able to have the problem sorted someday. I personally will be happy to pay for that.
Uwe G. Hoenig
7 months ago
Hi Chris, ok, I see. You ran into the annoying bug which already had been mentioned in earlier comments: the first grain of a new note starts with the pitch setting of the previous note. I tried to solve this, but failed. It seems to be a bug in the grain cloud module. I'll try again to find a workaround, but can't promise anything. :-( Shorter grains make this effect less noticeable, that's right. And you can play around with the instrument voice asssign modes (oldest/neweset/nearest) to see which one suits your Grip usage best. In the case of your arpeggio, "newest" might lead to better results, but has the drawback of triggering the same first voice again for the following notes, so the notes don't have a proper release behaviour.
Chris Phan
7 months ago
The same thing happens in EASY with some jitter, I should add
Chris Phan
7 months ago
Thank you for the quick reply. I tried what you said and still had no luck. Here's an audio example of what I described: https://soundcloud.com/keyxmusic/grip/s-rKu56 You can hear that besides the main voice playing up the scale, then down the scale, there are other random voices popping up in no predictable order. When I loop this in my DAW it also tends to give me different results each time.I'm new to granular synthesis so I'm not sure if this kind of behavior is expected? That was the B Panel Default preset, but the same behavior still happened with my own imported samples and many other presets. Preset ugh 1:17: Forman to go is one of a few I found that didn't introduce random harmonics. I think in general it helps to have short grain length, which makes me wonder if pitch key-tracking finds it difficult to process long grains with different pitches? That's just a guess as I'm no programmer.
Uwe G. Hoenig
7 months ago
@ jace, regarding the pitch bug: I think that the bug is known, but I'll try to set up a small demo ens to report it.
Uwe G. Hoenig
7 months ago
Hi Chris, please try varying the values for Distance and Length. The default patch is an useful starting template, technically, but somewhat shitty, musically... It might be better to start playing around with the second EASY bank snapshot, "EASY with some jitter". Hope this helps.
Chris Phan
7 months ago
Thank you for your work. When I load up the Easy panel Default patch, and play a C major scale for example, I find the timbre of each notes to be different, and the harmonics don't move up and down consistently. Is there a setting for this? The playback indicator lights up at different cells when I play different notes so I assume it might be something tied to that. Thank you
YASUSHI MATSUMOTO
7 months ago
A wonderful perfection!
Leonard Bowers
7 months ago
The more I use it, the more uses I find for it. Absolutely one of the best in the user library.
jace cavacini
7 months ago
Regarding the Grain Cloud module pitch bug (see below), is it something that needs to be fixed by Native Instruments? If yes, has it been reported to them? i've begun importing my own samples to play with this ensemble and the pitch envelop problems of this bug is really driving me batty. "Regarding "the release of the previous note, ends up in the attack of the new note": this is a bug in the Grain Cloud module. I investigated it and found others complaining about exact the same thing with this module. I tried hard to find a workaround for this, but I failed." -Uwe G. Hoenig
jace cavacini
7 months ago
This is a fantastic ensemble. It's very playable and has a near infinite variety of sounds, depending on samples used and positions/length/etc of the grains. i find this far more and immediately playable than Traveler. This is what i want a playable grain sample-player to be. Thank you very much for this lovely tool!
Alex Enkerli
8 months ago
Wow. Part of what makes this ensemble so valuable is that it’s very satisfying out of the box. And it really allows for deep exploration. The presets do a lot to help in learning. The embedded samples are well-curated to demonstrate the type of work which can be done. The variety of controls which can be applied make for a very broad-ranging tool without feeling overwhelming. Playing with the bigger knobs does feel like the appropriate thing to try (one point for Norman affordances). Mapping them to MIDI CC makes for a really fun tool. Should also work well with TouchOSC (or Lemur, as per the included template). Been hearing people talk for hours about commercial plugins which do less than this ensemble. In some contexts, this could easily justify the “cost of admission” in the Reaktor universe. In fact, makes me think that NI should pull a kind of Max gen~ move and allow people to compile standalone versions of ensembles. If it ever happens, there really is a case to be made about working with this GRIP Grain Cloud synth. Really good work!
Uwe G. Hoenig
1 year ago
@ jeff brothersuan: You need to trigger the Amp Envelope. Either with notes or, say, with an 1/8 pulse. I guess that this is the problem, hope it helps. Best, Uwe
JB
1 year ago
@scott hines- what did you do?! this is driving me crazy how do I get any effect pm live mode? ive got signal going in but nothing coming out wet
Uwe G. Hoenig
1 year ago
Hi Wilhelm, ctrl-click on the white strip on Mac. Or use the "Show audio map" Button in Reaktor to access the sample map editor.
Wilhelm Bembenek
1 year ago
How can I load samples in the synth? Right-click on the white label bar above the sample display doesn´t work on a Mac.
Charles Morris
1 year ago
Thank you Uwe! The asdrsounds.com tutorial on GRIP is what gave me incentive to dive in.
Mathis Nitschke
1 year ago
Hi Uwe, many thanks for this great Synth! It helps me a lot for my current theatre production!!! All the best, Mathis
Uwe G. Hoenig
1 year ago
Hi saliery suzami, try to right-click on the white strip above the wave display (not on the display itself).
Gennaro Giugliano
1 year ago
many thanks for your add
saliery suzami
1 year ago
One thing only, can't right click on sample area in Reaktor6, maybe bug.
saliery suzami
1 year ago
Great! A nice way for spending time with synthesis :)
Mark Bonnington
1 year ago
Too much for my current computer to handle, but if I ever buy a new machine I'm sure I'll be using this synth!
Martijn De Bondt
1 year ago
Just noticed that it had nothing to do with the synth being monophonic or not. It's been a while since i've posted the comment. Just haven't figured out how to make it mono
Martijn De Bondt
1 year ago
It worked :) Thanks for that. You couldn't make it monophonic is what you are saying? Still an extremely great synth though.
Uwe G. Hoenig
2 years ago
@Martijn: Oops... you should probably also turn the "Glide" knob in the pitch frame to zero.
Uwe G. Hoenig
2 years ago
Hi Martijn, please try setting the "Inertia" knob in the "Distance" frame to zero. Does that help? (In the Default patch, the grid for the grain distance incorporates "octaves", hence it is note dependent, and coupled with inertia this gives you sort of a glide effect. I admit that this was no good setting for the default patch, sorry for this.) Regarding "the release of the previous note, ends up in the attack of the new note": this is a bug in the Grain Cloud module. I investigated it and found others complaining about exact the same thing with this module. I tried hard to find a workaround for this, but I failed. (See also my comment from two years ago regarding this.) Sorry, but a cure for this is out of my reach. :-(
Martijn De Bondt
2 years ago
I'm having trouble using this synth. I used the default patch, turned all the mods to off, but still the sample i use (from my own library) triggers with a pitch slide (pitch sliding from way up to the triggered note). Also, when i stop triggering a note and trigger a new note, the release of the previous note, ends up in the attack of the new note. This might be a setting i'm overlooking. Help would be appreciated.
Jeremy Eusebio
2 years ago
Amazing
Michael Bourne
2 years ago
Amazing bit of kit ! :D
Scott Hines
2 years ago
Never mind. Got it!
Scott Hines
2 years ago
I'm trying to use the GRIP in the live mode. I have a good audio signal coming in and going out of the synth. If it's put to fully wet, silence. If I pull it back I get audio input but no "effect" from the module itself. I've pushed every button and turned every knob and the signal is completely unaffected and again, with the Dry/Wet mix knob turned all the way to the right I get silence. What am I doing wrong? Thanks
Sam Mover
2 years ago
https://soundcloud.com/andreigorlov/epilogue-no-future
Joachim Brandenburg
2 years ago
Thank you, i was looking for this! :)
ben watson
2 years ago
I LOVE THIS! (sorry for shouting)
Uwe G. Hoenig
3 years ago
@ Daniel: Thanks! Automation from the DAW doesn't seem to be possible right now, sorry. I need to fix this... For the time being I'd suggest to use MIDI learn with the knob and to assign a MIDI CC to control it (for which you could then draw a curve in Live).
Daniel Malcolm
3 years ago
I really like this! i'm having one issue - I need to automate the sample selection knob in my DAW but I just can't seem to get Ableton to configure it. Can anyone help?
Justin Browning
3 years ago
Wow...just WOW!! The sound possibilities with this instrument are amazing!! Great work, thanks!!
Marc Bayer
3 years ago
thanks...
Julian Cafarella
3 years ago
Here is a new piece made using UGH_grip 1.2 amongst other userlibrary synths and also NI Subharmonic 2 and VST Massive: https://soundcloud.com/julian-cafarella/affinities-of-half_diminished-chords-and-their-progressions
J S
3 years ago
Excellent. Like the best whiskeys it gets more mature with every year. thanks for the work.
Scott Moncrieff
3 years ago
This is a fantastically technically deep synth to explore, I actually uploaded my own live improvised demo of it here in the past week with one of the patches I edited. Enjoy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqV2junhWs4
Aaron Zimmermann
3 years ago
This one blows my mind every time i open it. Excellent work!
Paule
3 years ago
.. and so a lot of presets - youh!
Donald Baynes
3 years ago
thanks i am using this with my dr dub delay and beatstep
Uwe G. Hoenig
3 years ago
Thanks, Felix. The more simultaneous grains, the more cpu load. So set "Distance" to higher and "Length" to lower values in the sounds. You could also reduce the value for "Overlap" in the Grain Cloud module's properties. But of course, this will also change the sounds...
Felix Petrescu
3 years ago
great update. thank you big time. one small question: any tips for reducing cpu usage? except reducing the voice number.
Uwe G. Hoenig
3 years ago
Ok, here is the new version with the Lemur template. Have fun.
Uwe G. Hoenig
4 years ago
@Andreas: No Lemur template yet, update is still in the works. And no idea regarding your problem with Live/Spiral, sorry.
andreas haun
4 years ago
i saw that you using live. i have a problem with spiral in live. often sprial stops working after clicking on the track spiral is in
andreas haun
4 years ago
hi, thanks for the grip. where to find the lemur(ipad) templates ?
kurt otto
4 years ago
thanks, uwe! i've been a big fan and a user of travelizer for at least a decade. looking forward to exploring GRIP in depth.
Uwe G. Hoenig
4 years ago
I need to make/adapt some more presets for the Lemur template. This takes some time, unfortunately, but I'll do my best... The Lemur template is not for editing the synth, btw, but simply for performing with it.
Nicolas Sciarrone
4 years ago
any idea when version 1.2 will be released? i'm very interested in the lemur template. keep up the good work. thank you
Derrick Spears
4 years ago
Thank you for your great work!!!
Uwe G. Hoenig
4 years ago
Thanks for your comments and your ratings. I'm working on version 1.2 which will include the Lemur template. So stay tuned... Best, Uwe
Swaroop Kishore
4 years ago
5 stars... can you share the lemur template please???????
H G
4 years ago
This very unique mix of synth/sample/grain instrument is way cool…The motion in the patches, the sound effect possibilities, the overall vibe is a real winner to these ears…Well done !
Eric Curkendall
4 years ago
So many possibilities, and all sound so fantastic, love all of your ensembles! Thanks again for yet another amazing contribution!
Tommi Salonen
4 years ago
Wow, I have no idea how to operate this, but it produces really great random results! Got stuck experimenting for two hours. Thanks!
Soarer
4 years ago
Hey - got it! I had to set "Note" in Grain Retrig in the Distance section. Totally synced - Awesome, thanks again.
Soarer
4 years ago
Hi Uwe Thanks for this amazing synth and audio tool! I made a nice track today with Grip. I have a problem though. Grip doesn't seem to reset to the clock when I hit stop in Ableton Live and so when I press start again it is out of sync unless I start it at the right time. I cannot get this to work so I thought it might be a bug. What do you think and could you please look into this and maybe implement a "reset to clock feature" and make this beast sync!? Hope to hear from you soon. Best
Uwe G. Hoenig
4 years ago
@Julian: Nice, thanks. :-)
Julian Cafarella
4 years ago
Uwe, I have made another longer more ambhient Soundscape made with ugh Grip 1.1 and other Reaktor user library downloads. https://soundcloud.com/julian-cafarella/into-the-milky-way-mix-1
Michaela Joy Russo
4 years ago
Awesome! Thanks for sharing.
Uwe G. Hoenig
4 years ago
Julian, thanks for posting the track, I like it. It's nice to hear something made only from these instruments. :-)
Julian Cafarella
4 years ago
I made this piece with ugh_Grip 1.1 and Travellizer relying on original presets and sample maps. I hope you can enjoy: https://soundcloud.com/julian-cafarella/3-april-2014-2014-monothematic
Julian Cafarella
4 years ago
Thanks Uwe for this marvelous upload, ensemble, sample map and snapshots are all terrific and easily usable. Kindest regards!
arachnaut
4 years ago
Sample is in place! thanks.
Uwe G. Hoenig
4 years ago
The missing sample is now embedded. Sorry!
Paule
4 years ago
I delete the missing sample #20 and the map and save the ensemble again.
arachnaut
4 years ago
Reaktor 5 1.aif sample 20 is missing. 'Embed' in the sample map not checked ON.
arachnaut
4 years ago
In version 1.1, sample 20 (Reaktor 5 1.aif) does not have 'Embed' checked, so it is missing in the upload.
Paule
4 years ago
Do you know, you can vote a second time if there is an update.
Paule
4 years ago
Uwe, danke für 1.1
Olaf Bubel
4 years ago
Frist ordentlich cpu, klingt dafür fantastisch und ist flexibel. Super Arbeit. Vielen Dank Uwe kann sicherlich was damit anfangen ;)
4 years ago
YES great one!! can't wait for the Lemur template
Mantra Ardhana
4 years ago
great one !!!!
Uwe G. Hoenig
4 years ago
There once was a Lemur template. I need to invest some time to make it work again. Might upload that some time later.
Sascha Dikiciyan
4 years ago
Uwe, is there a lemur template for this ens??
Michael Hale
4 years ago
This sounds wonderful - thank you for sharing!
yannick Le Déan
4 years ago
Definitively a must have, thanks a lot sir ! presets are amazing and it's really a pleasant ensemble to explore .
Jonathan Loeb
4 years ago
Great idea, but reliably crashes R 5.9 on my MacPro 4,1 OS10.8.5.
allan walker
4 years ago
ABSOLUTLY AWSOME, YOU THE MAN. THIS ENSEMBLE BLEW MY MIND. EXCELLENT PRESETS. YOU GOTTA TRY THIS....
Andreas Sandberg
4 years ago
Great job! Doesn't reach it's full potential with my computer, however as CPU peaks frequently. But it surely delivers! Thanks!
Uwe G. Hoenig
4 years ago
Oops, didn't notive that new comments are at the bottom now... @ Gabor Varga: I also noticed such an effect, and I guess we mean the same: the first grain of a new note ist played with the parameters of the last note - which gets more obvious with longer grains. I tried hard to get rid of this, but I couldn't... As you can see I included a "retrigger grain" source (for example on Note On) in the Distance frame which is useful anyway, but it doesn't fix this behaviour. I tend to believe that this is a bug in the Grain Cloud module. If anybody can help with this I'd be very happy...
Uwe G. Hoenig
4 years ago
Thanks, NI, for fixing the 44-year bug! :-)
Uwe G. Hoenig
4 years ago
Thank you, NI, for fixing the 44-year-bug. :-)
Gabor Varga
4 years ago
Very nice synth! I build similar synt and i have a problem with that, and I recognise same problem in your synth too. When you hit a key, then you hit another key, the first key is repeated (until adsR end.) This glitch is annoying me and i search some solving. Can u check this situation? (it is easy to recognise on a simple sound like "NotchPad" snap. ) I see you are more experienced than me... :)
Paule
4 years ago
Oh, the comments add at the end, now. Excuse me for twice it.
Paule
4 years ago
Na klar Uwe, nimmt was du kriegst. Das wird hier immer konfuser: obwohl ich angemeldet war, durfte ich mich für einen Kommentar nochmals anmelden.
Paule
4 years ago
Na klar Uwe, nimmt was du kriegst. Das wird hier immer konfuser: obwohl ich angemeldet war, durfte ich mich für einen Kommentar nochmals anmelden.
Paule
4 years ago
Uwe, nach dem update ist dein Ensemble leider schon 44 Jahre alt. Hab´ da ein paar ssf für deinen GRIP hochgeladen und ´nen Verweis für´s Suchfeld eingebaut. Wär jammerschade, wenn´s keiner mehr findet.
Paule
4 years ago
a royal stag
arachnaut
4 years ago
Powerful, flexible, exhilarating.
Sven Kretzschmar
4 years ago
Tach, Herr Hoenig. Es ist wunderschön wieder etwas von ihnen zu "hören ". Absolut fantastisch, vielen Dank für´s Teilen...in den Zeiten wo heut gerne daran verdient wird. Respekt . DANKE !!
Valentin Borodin
4 years ago
Sir, this is quite an accomplishment. Not since Max patch Granulator have I been so entertained. Thank you.
Uwe G. Hoenig
4 years ago
Thank you all for your nice comments! I'm glad you like the synth. And please don't forget to let me know if you find something that behaves strange or is broken... Thanks.
Renaud Schweitzer
4 years ago
Exactly the type of work I love to explore. Grats and thank you so much for uploading ! Presets sound great :)
Chris R Gibson
4 years ago
How exciting, lots of really well thought out options, looks to be inviting of deep and serious explorations...thank you very much ;-)
Diego Callegari
4 years ago
Thanks a lot
4 years ago
amazing!
Lars Bo Hermansen
4 years ago
Sorry. Forgot. High on CPU. But can not get it all i suppose. Still Top.
Lars Bo Hermansen
4 years ago
Thank You very much Hr. UGH. Even thou i am not a technician, i find it easy to create soundvariations with various buttons, that make it easy to tweek. In many ways this sampler/ synth is very intuitive. The description also is kind of a manual, and the videos there a link to in the description is great presentations. If you need this kind of and instrument, then this is top quality. The samples are top quality too, as well as the idea. Both walk hand in hand. A lot of fine work with respect for us in the community. Respect to that and for you. This synth earn objektive top rating. Kind Regards
marco vicari
4 years ago
thank you so much, uwe. it´s awesome. 5 stars aren´t enough.
gotostereo Mikhail
4 years ago
Uwe G. Hoenig Thank you very much, a great synth!
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