2.0 Controlling Knobs with External Midi Controller?

How is this done? I want to map macro controls to be controlled by my knobs on my Launchkey. Further is it possible to do this without using macros?

 

Bump, Someones gotta know

 

I don't think this is possible

 

I just hit the learn button and moved the knob on my axiom and it maps it ..

Make sure your midi controller is recognized by maschine in midi preferences first.

right there where it says cc74 or what ever is the midi mapped part.




here is what it would look like before its mapped.. it says Learn



I didn't use a macro I just assigned to a parameter that has that Learn option underneath.

 

Thank you!! I feel so stupid now for never even seeing the learn button

 

Yes thank you!

 

I can do this but I can't figure out how to record automations from an external controller. Any help would be appreciated.

 

You need to hit the Auto Wr button - it will record your automations...

 

Yes this only works for the native controls not the external controller such as may Akai Mpk49. it will record Key data and the pitch wheel but non of the pots or sliders.
More importantly the accelerometers on my numark orbit.

 

Hummm...I'll check myself when I get home but if your external knobs / sliders are mapped to Maschine's knobs then I'd have thought it was the same as moving the knobs on Maschine. If this doesnt work then I have the same problem too!!!

 

I know right??
I can get them mapped, and what im doing sounds really cool. But i jus can't record it... :-/ its driving me crazy. lol

 

That sucks if thats the case - have you also noticed that those mappings to your external slider / knobs are only saved with the project...theyre lost when you start a new one... Groan! I'll be watching this thread...

 

The weirdest thing of it all, is when i initially mapped the orbit it automatically recorded the movements as CC automations. I cleared them as the first capture was nonsense and i have yet to find away to get them back. So its possible, anyone know how to setup CC specific automations?

 

Whats worse i can capture cc automations of controls that haven't been mapped to any parameters in maschine, but as soon as they are mapped to something there is no capture. I sincerely hope this isn't some form of proprietary protection of the maschine firmware solution as im trying to use sliders and accelerometers not offered by any NI hardware...

 

Well - I just found on another thead that what we are trying to do - IS NOT POSSIBLE.
Sure you can map your external knobs / faders to maschine but Maschine WILL NOT RECORD ANY MOVEMENTS MADE FROM THE EXTERNAL CONTROLLER.
In order to do what we're asking, we need to map directly to the VST or sound and control via CC data which Maschine WILL record - effectively bypass the Maschine controllers' knobs.
The mapping to Maschine's knobs is fine for LIVE performance tweaking.
I'll be putting a recommendation into the developers for this feature as it seems the easiest way to map is to Maschine's knobs. Why, therefore we can't record these modulations seems a bit "daft" (what a great word)!

Cheers.
Rob.

 

Hmmm. Yes this was the conclusion I was fearing. Now we wait...

 

Yeah I knew about this. Another stupid problem that hasn't been sorted out.

In the same vein, one of the things I hate most about Maschine is the lack of integration with other Midi controllers in general. Like why can't I use an 8x8 midi controller grid as a step sequencer? Huff.

 

The more I read of these INCREDIBLE limitations of Maschine the more I'm regretting purchasing this thing. I mean.. damn! So let me get this straight. I can automate pretty much any parameter very easily by using the mouse at the edge of the knob? Looks like I can automate absolutely everything this way. But if I assign this control to an external midi knob/slider using the learn function (literally takes 2 seconds, very easy), hit record, twiddle the knob.. nothing happens. None of my moves are automated?

Sometimes I seriously doubt the competence of the programmers at NI. I mean.. seriously? Are there no musicians working at NI? This is like the stupidest thing ever.

I really hope I'm missing something here.

EDIT: it really seems to be this stupid. I can automate any parameter using the Maschine Mikro knob + shift but I have not figured out a way to record using an external controller (in my case the Novation 61SL mk2). I've tried holding down the shift button on the mikro but of course that doesn't help at all.

EDIT2: to clarify, I'm using Maschine mainly in stand alone mode. When it's used as a plugin then naturally it all works as expected because the automation is recorded into the DAW. Even then it would be much more intuitive if we could simply record any automation tweaks from external midi controllers.

 

There is no need to assign the external controller to a Maschine knob if you want to record automation from an external controller to Maschines sequencer. All you do is tweak the knob on the controller and hit record in Maschine and it records it just like any other sequencer. The issue is when you try to map the external controller to a Maschine knob AND record to Maschines sequencer.

The mapping of the controller to a Maschine knob is what breaks the ability for that external controller to be recorded to Maschines sequencer. You have to decide if you want to record an external midi cc control to Maschines sequencer or if you want to control Maschine and record to your DAW. The mapping is for live control or if you are using a DAW or external hardware as your sequencer.

When using Maschines sequencer just record and don't map to Maschines knobs. The mapping in this scenario is done between the external controller and the hosted plugin. I imagine this is to avoid midi feedback loops.

 

I know but that's the whole point.. a lot of plugins do not make it easy to map controllers to them yet Maschine exposes the controls in a very convenient way. So mapping through a Maschine knob is much easier and the most logical step. Not being able to record these automation moves is really stupid. There should be no technical limit or reason why this doesn't work.