2X OSC With Ring Modulation

Hi Iam trying to build a synth with two oscilators and a Oscilator mix With ring modulation a ADSR Envelope a Filter LP Bp Hp lfo asignable to Osc pitch Filter Width and a Distortion unit.

I have atempted one already called Sinesynth V1 But id like to expand on that with the above. Iam new to reaktor Baught it Two week ago Just before Christmas.

IF some one could help me that, would be great.

 

have a look at SoundSchool Analog.ens which is in your R5 "Classics" folder.

sowari

 

Kind of defeats the object of building my own

LoL

Thanks

 

you need to be more specifi. what are you having problems with?

for the mixer, id use a mixer module, have OSC 1 go into input 1, OSC 2 into input 2, and the ring modulation (OSC 1 x OSC 2) in input 3.

there is nothing wrong with sowari's suggestion, i dont think he meant to use the soundschool analog synth, but to look at it and learn from it, as it is not that complicated and does exactly what you want. this is 1 of the 3 main ways to learn Reaktor, the other 2 is experimenting by building your own stuff, as you are already doing, and by asking questions here, which you are also doing, but i wouldnt skip the reverse-engineering and dissecting other people's ensembles, as this can go a long way it understanding how useful thinkgs are done in Reaktor. as sowari has said in alot of other threads, try going thru the R2/3 (premium, essentials and new in R3 folders, on the R5 disc), these esnembl3es dont have the reaklly complicated GUI elements that add tons of complexity to the new R4 and esepcially R5 synths that make them so hard to dissect.

 

Holly **** i didn't even know they where there Ugh Traverlizer is amazing oh bugger another sleepless night

Thanks man

Yeah I agree The oldschool analogue is a good simple synth i will have a loock at it and i rekon will help me id like to be able to make all my own stuff eventually Thanks

 

I tried seting up a mixer but it will not let me put two signals into one input

 

can you include a screenshot of it? that will help us

sowari

 

I think i need to read up a bit
www.enjin.co.uk/public/screenshots/sinesynth_ens.png

 

You cannot connect two wires to one input - ever.

You really need to do the following, trust me, I've been doing this for a long time (by "this" I mean both building things in reaktor and helping people who are new to it on the forums);

1. Read the manual. You won't understand what you are doing, but just try and get through it. Especially important is the "Getting Started" section (I think it's section #9) that steps you through some of the basics of the building process.

2. Try to modify some simple stuff. It sounds like you're doing that. Good. Do a lot more. Start by taking large working macros that you like from other things and just wiring them togteher. Half the time they won't work because you won't have all the connections right, or won't be sending the macros you've taken from other instruments wired up they way they want to be wired, and you'll have to figure out why. This is a good way to learn for several reasons; you'll learn from others about what's a good building practice, you'll naturally be steered away from things that can't easily be done in reaktor, debugging is the best way to learn what's really going on, and when things work you'll have really big jumps in the features of your instrument with out having to do much work, and that'll keep you happy.

There really are no short cuts, it takes time and persistence, and a lot of reading boring stuff and picking apart other people's work - because the manual won't teach you half the tricks you need to learn - it can't. It's just like learning a programming language that way, you can read all the books in the world, but looking at the code of someone's who's been doing it for a while and seeing how they'd build what you want to build is much better.

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Oh yeah, and ask a lot of questions - but when you ask them, try to make them as detailed as possible. Make sure it's really a question. If you really want help, think to yourself; "could someone answer this question in less than 50 words"? before you post. If they don't end in a question mark, then you probably haven't asked a question!

Also, search the forums, there's a lot of good stuff tucked away here.

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ok, for very simple Ring Mod, i would take the outputs from the 2 oscillators and put them in to a multiplier and then put the output from that into a mixer that had the untreated outputs from the Oscillators and then send that to the filters.

that is why i suggested having a look at SoundSchool. ;-) the way i learnt Reaktor was by looking at already made structures and reverse engineering them. maybe i am wrong to push you to do this?

sowari

 

in the mixer's properties, you can add more inputs, its on the first page, in a little box. also, you can drag a wire to a module while holding ctrl to add ports.

 

Yeah i took out the manual last night Erm might have to read it a few times first

I think your right Clist good way to learn

I will try the ring modulation thingy see what i come up with

its confusing theres three menus for Modules

Built in module
Core cell
macro
???

Igues some are newer vesions is there a set i should prop start with more than otheres or is it a hieracial thing?

sos for more questions

 

RTM.

1. Built-In Module = lowest level module at the "primary level". These are built in to the software and cannot be modified.

2. Core cell = Also the lowest level module at the "primary level", but they are built with "core" which is a level below "primary" so you can dig into them and modify them. They are stored as files.

3. Macro = collection of modules, core cells or other macros. Stored as files, at a higher level than 1 and 2

4. Instrument = collection of 1,2,3 or 4 (instruments can be placed inside of instruments). Saved as files, inputs and outputs must be monophonic if you want to connect them at the ensemble level.

5. Ensemble = the highest level. Only instruments can be added at this level and they must have monophonic inputs and outputs to be connected together. "monophonic" does not mean stereo in this case, it means "1 voice".

See manual section 1.4 (page 16) for a diagram of the hierarchy. See manual sections 14,15,16,17 for a discussion of 5,4,3,2, and the Core Tutorial for a discussion of 1.

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