3rd Party VSTi non-native preset import

Apologies if this has been addressed in the forum elsewhere or if i'm missing something completely obvious. Using the VST version of Kore 2...

Let's say I have a 3rd party instrument and I want to import the presets. Doing so for the "native" presets that ship with the instrument is pretty intuitive. But what if I have some additional banks (FXB or FXP style patches) that I want to import. Stuff that I've downloaded elsewhere or made myself. I can't seem to find any mechanism to import those additional banks. Any suggestions?

 

A bank loader if the plugin doesn't have one's been on the feature request list since Kore 1; I've been asking for that since the early Kore betas. I'm still hopeful that it'll appear one of these days.

ew

 

Thanks ew. I guess that's what I was hoping I was blatantly overlooking. Here's to hope!

 

ew it's great to see you saying that! I think its about time NI properly addressed Kore's deficiencies.

1. Lack of fxp and fxb is a MAJOR one. Greedy closed-in company architecture will always backfire.

2. Kore has no multikore cpu support!...der...

3. network farming

Once Vienna Ensemble Pro gets a better preset database it will leave Kore for dust. It already does really, because Kore preset support for all but NI stuff is a farse.

 

Why has this thread been CLOSED in the forums? I hope it means it is already in beta.

I have DOZENS of fxb's of sounds I've written for all my plug-ins.

I will postpone my purchase of Kore until this is resolved--I'm not ready to give up on all my signature sounds!

Glad I read these forums before I purchased!

 

the batch import of presets for z3ta+ works. and those presets are of the .fxp/.fxb variety. that is the only non-NI synth i've tried so far.

 

I may have missed something here, but are you saying you've imported z3ta+ presets into Kore?

 

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You posted here, didn't you? Why do you say it's closed?

ew

 

Sure. z3ta uses .fxb for banks.

ew

 

yah. over a thousand of them, and i'm already over half way done giving them colors and stars

 

Keep in mind when a newer, quicker, better, fancier version of z3ta is released all your work of tagging sounds will be LOST...if you want to use the new version in Kore2. There is no way to transfer your tags to a new VSTI.

Now are you sure you want to spend this much time?

 

I guess he means this Eric:

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?p=638579#post638579

Why has it been closed? - this is one of the longest running threads and still a legit issue

 

Ah- thanks, Stephen. I was wondering if he meant the thread in feature requests.
I don't know who closed it; it wasn't me. Maybe the powers that be decided that it's a valid request; it's definitely one of my top three.

ew

 

i don't really find it to be a waste of time, and i would bet the ranch that there will never be a new version of z3ta+. but that info is worthwhile, i'll leave Synplant alone

 

A lot of softsynths do, don't they? I just didn't know you could bring z3ta+ sounds into Kore. I'll have to try that!

Kore's been working well enough for me that I haven't had to open the manual. Maybe I would have seen something about this there. Interesting, though....

FWIW, I don't think they'll update z3ta+, either. It's been out for years, and Cakewalk hasn't done much with their instruments since they introduced them years ago.

Thanks!

 

Cool! If you look at what you have and aren't on the instant upgrade mode then no worries.

I don't even own z3ta, but I think it is worth mentioning for those who don't know, that one can spend hours attempting to streamline their library with tags and colors and it will be a waste if the VSTI is upgraded to a new version.

I wish NI would fix this because it would transform my perception of Kore2 from a temporary tool into something to use for many years!

Of course I'm unusual in that I'm still using a MOTU Unisyn editor/librarian for PC that hasn't been updated in over 10 years. But it's a fantastic program for all my 90's rack synthesizers that have a 1 inch display screen and 99 menus to scroll through.

 

I still have my Unisyn installer disc around here somewhere. However, I don't have a pre-NT Windows box to run it on anymore, and I've cut my hardware down to three synths, all of which SoundDiver works better with.

ew

 

wow!

unisyn, sound-diver? I'm flashing back to the 90's, writing sounds for Alesis expansion cards!

Anybody needs a killer QS editor for unisyn, I've got one on a floppy somewhere around here, along with my Notator midi files....

Seriously, could it take NI 2 hours to put an fxb importer into Kore? This is absurd! And it's also functionality that is in every host ever built (unless I missed one somewhere.)

Do I really need to write out PATCH SHEETS for my sounds? Now I'm REALLY flashing back!

 

I keep an old PC running Windows 98 with only Unisyn on it for the express purpose of editing 6 old 90's rack synthesizers.

Back in the 90s I spent many hours building up an elaborate library using Unisyn tags. I must have over a thousand tagged sounds just for the Ensoniq VFX-SD. The time I spent building the library is what makes Unisyn so valuable for myself and why it's worth dedicating an old PC.

And of course this is the very same reason I don't spend much time with the Kore tags. In the software world change is the only constant.

 

has anybody tried getting around this by using a plugin which also functions as a host, such as bidule or usine?

I will try this with usine and see if it works. I don't know if the ksd will eable replication of the host environment correctly, and of course, it creates unnecessary overhead.

But it might work.