AAX 64 bit support

That's what I don't understand - the people on here whining on about having problems with Mini-Grand and DB-33. With a properly spec'd and set up computer there shouldn't be problems.

I wouldn't hold out for Komplete 10 for an aax 64 bit update. I tend to think it'll be coming in Komplete 9. Look at what NI did for the K8 package - they rolled out aax support one or two programs at a time while still being within the Komplete 8 package. All Komplete x means is a collection of NI stuff - they can update individual components as they need to.

 

Of course. It would just be a bummer to barely get to use the K9 stuff before the 200$ K10 update comes out. Then it would be wiser for me to wait until then. I'm really on the fence about this.

 

The thing I'm trying to get across is is to NOT wait for some mythical Komplete 10. It's not like NI comes out with these packages on a regular basis. The only reasons I can think NI even did a Komplete 9 was because of the new Reaktor synth and Battery 4 upgrade. I'd go for K9 now.

 

Mini Grand

Sorry, but everyone who says that Mini-Grand is a decent Plug-in must have serious problems with his ears or he/she is not a piano player- I ve checked many piano plugins, cuz piano is very important for me, Mini-Grand is not even worth being mentioned.
All, I can say at the moment is that I have the demo Version of Reaper and as for performance and Features, I must say it is a big difference to PT, all plugins that caused Problems in PT, have not caused any Problems in Reaper yet; Reaper has much faster workflow and is a lot more user-friendly as far as I can tell after a couple of hours.
Ok, but that´s not the topic.

I hope you will get your AAX - 64 bit support, I think I will defenitely say goodbye to PT, I just can not believe that PT is a leading daw, but it´s the way it is.

 

You won't need to wait for Komplete 10, I'm sure.

 

Compared to other piano libraries Mini-Grand is deficient but it's still something that can't be sneezed at, especially if one doesn't have other piano libraries. If piano is important to you then yes - buy one of the expensive sample sets. If you just want to lay down a few quickie lines then Mini-Grand will be good enough. Or can't you grasp that idea?

PT is a leading daw used in the majority of commercial studios and by those who score and compose music. It's also used in the majority of field recording setups as well.

Care to explain what plugins caused you problems in PT that aren't causing you problems in Reaper? If you can't or won't then what you're saying is invalid at best.

 

Plugins with problems in PT

Plugins that caused problems in PT and that do NOT cause any problem in Reaper:
Studio Drummer, Reaktor, Absynth, Battery 4 and Avid´s xpand2 was just terrible - only problems.

I did give you examples that often times the reason things are used by known people or studios are sometimes not reasonable, it´s just marketing ! Shure SM 58 is definitely not a good mic, but People want to make you believe Michael Jackson used that mic in some recordings of Thriller (I did not like MJ anyway, but that´s not the point) and USA is one of the biggest countries and a country with lots of Commercial Studios, of course a daw made in USA will be the leading daw, but that does not say PT is the best one !
Even a more affordable daw like Reaper seems to be way better than PT.

Well, Mini-Grand could be good enough for a child aged 5 years first time trying to play a piano.
Or does anyone wants to say that Mini-Grand set new Standards ? The Standards of a leading Company ?

If you want to see how you could set Location markers in a user-friendly way, just have a look at Logic; such a simple, but important thing is not user-friendly in PT.

Even when you look at that oldfashioned purple Color of Pro Tools you see exactly that this company sleeps - I mean it´s a color of the 80ies - it´s definitely the color of Prince (1999 / Purple Rain) - wake up it´s 2013 !

There are People like you (?) who like PT, there are People, who just say they like PT, there are People who do not like PT and People who do not care about PT or any other daw. If I had free choice and the money to purchase whatever I want, it would not be Pro Tools again !

 

Mini Grand isn't supposed to be this big concert piano. People don't need that either for background stuff. While Mini Grand may not be the VI I would use for piano ballads it works fine in prog-rock/metal, latin and funk where I give the piano a supportive role. I don't want a huge, 100% natural sounding piano for that since it's not the sound I want. Different tools for different jobs!

Location markers in Pro Tools is a piece of cake, I don't know how you could possibly find that hard. Holding one button and clicking with the mouse isn't exactly rocket science.

Who cares about the color? It's just a color. Different strokes for different folks and all that. If I were to judge stuff by what traditionally belongs to which time I'd have no style on my own, but I don't like being a sheep. The people at Avid probably don't like that either, and if they happen to like purple - good for them.

That is fine. You don't like it, and you are entitled to your opinion. I for one cannot wait until PT11 gets more plugin support and I can use it fully.

 

Reaktor 5, Battery 4, and Absynth have never given me any problems in PT10. I don't use Studio Drummer (have BFD2 for drums) and Expand is a non-use for me as well. I think your experience was based on not knowing the program and taking the time to learn it. Besides, if you went into your PT experience with that massive chip on that massive shoulder you have then I'm not surprised you and PT don't get along.

Who needs flashy colors in a daw? A lot of people don't. Flashy colors might be okay for a home recordist but when you're looking at those same colors for hours and days on end it tends to give one a headache. I know - used to use Sonar and you could have some of the most garish headachy color schemes on Earth.

Don't know where you got the basis for your statements about Michael Jackson Thriller and an SM58. SM58 is nothing more than a stage mike and MJ hadn't used one of those in a long time. He was pretty much a headworn mic setup. In the studio it was probably some high-priced Neumann or such.

Like I said Mini-Grand is good for knocking out quick lines and then you move the MIDI to point to something better. For demos Mini-Grand will work just fine.

As to the rest of your blather - feh

 

Color and CI

I say oldfashioned purple color, you reply that color is not important.
I say Mini Grand is not worth being mentioned, you reply that it is good for special Music styles and so on on and on.
It is not about me not liking purple color ! I was even a big Prince Fan in the 80´s when I was child.
OKAY, Pro Tools is THE leading Company - NOW I understand why Music has become so good and precious since the 90 ´s wasn´the first release of Pro Tools in 1991 ?

The Color of a brand is not important ? I see ! Strangely enough purple or lilac makes people getting tired, not a very cheery color.
But some say a Color is not very important, it has no influence... you see that color as an Icon on your Desktop, when you open Pro Tools, when you go to the Website, when...
Talk for example to an ad man about significance of colors.

AND I was and I am not only talking about color.

And I agree with you, Pro Tools is the leading Company for prof Audio production software for a couple of years ! And you really think that´s a reason for celebrating ?

Can´t you read between the lines ?

I think it was Bruce Swedien talking about Shure SM 58, Thriller an MJ as for Studio recording.
It´s better to look closely; ask people what kind or genre of film "Black Swan" is, some will say a film about dancing,
about ballet, about a girl trying to be successful, about black and White - good and evil. Watch the film closely!
there is a very important scene when suddenly the mood of the film changes - everyone will notice it while watching, and
you store it in your subconscious ! The film want especially young people to consume drugs, and the film even says that you are
not hip and not cool if you do not consume hard drugs regularly - that´s the main message of the movie - that´s business !
And a lot of people would tell me Hollywood is the best place for making movies in the world.

I will stop here. Everything was said.

Hope you get your 64 bit Support and have a nice purple trip.

 

Like I said - you put out nothing but idiotic blather.

 

Closing this thread. Clearly it's getting unproductive.

 

AAX 64 ready?

Is it really so hard to give us at least an estimate on when the AAX 64 will be ready ? I know that most developers are similarly very unspecific on the release date but I still think that this is a bit unfair . I write this because another thread on AAX 64 has been closed due to a heated off topic discussion. I am torn between upgrading to Komplete 9 Ultimate and gettin the VSL so I can work with NI in PT 10. Does anyone have any insider info on a possible release date?

Piotr

 

Come on people, there are three threads opened on this already. Look around before you open a new thread! You could've continued in any of those. (David, could you merge them perhaps? )


There is no insider info, no release date. It will happen when it's done.


BTW, NI stuff will work in PT10 because they do have AAX 32-bit plugins.

 

That is not entirely true. The most popular thread on that subject has been closed down due to a heated offtopic discussion. Just because You are not interested in AAX 64 doesn't mean You have to be so upset about it . Relax please. If there is nothing relevant to add why to post in the first place?. I am sure that there are a lot more users who are quiet concerned by the lack of any feedback from NI. The only way in my opinion is to put a bit pressure on them here on the forum. Maybe it wont help but give them at least an insight how many users are waiting for this inpatiently.
Piotr
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Besides, I am not blaming NI for the situation. It could as well be a bug on the PT 11 release, which some developers seem to suggest. The other topic on AAX 64 which was closed down was by far the most popular in recent weeks , so it prooves that for many of us it is vital to know where we stand on this. Of course we can use PT 10 with ViennaEnsemble Pro5 or without,but having a roadmap on release dates helps to plan a buying schedule for plugins.

 

The thing is that NI never posted their roadmaps officially. Very few developers do that, and the bigger a developer is, the smaller chance is that they will post their roadmaps officially.

 

Yes, I've just merged two threads relating to AAX speculation.

To repeat: I think NI knows it's important. And they aren't dragging their feet. They'll release it as soon as it's ready. What more can anybody say?

For related reading, some of you may be interested in this:

http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2013/6/28/aax-64-bit-plug-in-support-why-the-delay.html

And for the programmers or extremely curious, this is fascinating:

http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/hom...e-plug-in-feature-omissions-in-pro-tools.html

Bottom line: we have no way of knowing how drastic the changes in AAX affect Kontakt or other NI plugs, so...stop me if you've heard this before...they'll release it when it's ready.