Abbey road drums as VST in Maschine

Hi! I use the Kontakt instruments abbey road drums a lot, 60's and modern... I'm considering Maschine. I read that Maschine comes with it's own versions of of 60's and 70's drums. How are these different from the full versions? And anyone running the full kontakt instruments abbey road drums in maschine through VST hosting - how is this?

 

the Maschine Abbey Road drums are a very cut down version of the Kontakt Soundpack, but still useful.

for me to get the best out of the drums you need a keyboard with quite a few octaves. if you use that to play and record the drums into a Maschine Pattern you will be fine.

to be honest, i have not tried using the full Abbey Road drums in Maschine yet.

sowari

 

it would be beyond sweet if there were a seamless integration between Maschine and Kontakt/Battery, so that if either of those are opened up as a Vst the pads would automatically work! i really don't like beating on a fake piano (midi controller) for my Abbey Road 80s kits!

 

Use Maschine in Keyboard mode or, if you want more flexibility and to be able to use more than a 16 semitone range, set up Maschine in MIDI mode to be your "fake piano". It deserves that title even more.

 

the problem is that many Battery kits and Abbey Road kits are spread over more than 16 Pads because of the range of sounds and articulations.

so yes, as Mr36 says you need to use the Maschine Controller in MIDI Mode use the Group buttons to transpose.

sowari

 

No need to use midi mode. If you want to use the pads instead of a midi keyboard it works fine. You just have to press pad mode and button 5&6 to transpose the pads up or down to play the full kit since they are mapped accross more than 16 keys. Same with palaying any other VSTi with a wider key range.

I only wish Maschine had room for dedicated transpose buttons without needing to hold pad mode. One of those things that should only be one button press.

 

I suggested MIDI mode to be able to play different notes from different parts of the keyboard at the same time. Without switching at all. If you play one sound at a time, fair enough. Keyboard mode is all you need. But if you want to play the sample that's mapped to G#1 and the sample that's mapped to F4, you need MIDI mode.

 

so the pads don't atomaticly work when opening kontakt instrument vst abbey road drums?

Each pad sends a spesific midi note? Then the config shouldn't be a hassle. I'm mainly interested in the options you can do with the 16 maschine pads

I know that there are more articulations than that, but 16 would suffice - now I'm using a 10 pad roland handsonic. I would like to know if it is easy enough not to break the maschine workflow advantage to use the maschine pads to sequence full kontakt abbey road drums in maschine software. I guess the roland HPD-10 could be used to sequence it as well as my 64 key novation.

 

yes the Pads automatically work if you open a plugin.

but

you might have to change the base note in Maschine so that it will play the sounds. here i am talking about the Controller being in Maschine Controller Mode.

if you press Shift + Control to put Maschine into MIDI Mode, you can use the Group buttons to change the octaves. you could also use the Controller Editor Application to change the notes that the pads send. so you could make your own Abbey Road drums template to suit your needs.

sowari

 

I still say, why would you want to hassle with using midi mode? As far as mapping, Just do as I said and place the group into keyboard mode by pressing pad mode and button 2. This will allow you to play the Abbey Road kit right out the box. The Abbey Road kits have a nice mapping feature on the GUI with midi learn. You can select what part of the kit you want and tap a maschine pad to have that pad mapped to that drum hit. You can then save it in Kontakt as a mapping preset or save a module preset in maschine once you set up your mapping. You can do alternate mappings as well.

 

Is the Abbey kit more for rock beats? It doesnt sound like they hit hard enough for hiphop r&b beats, or am I wrong?

 

thanks for this

sowari

 

i would say they are 'real kits' and remember real kits were used by the drummers that have been sampled by many hip hop artists.

but, yes if you know the sort of artists that were recorded at Abbey Road, that will give you a clew as to the sort of music that was recorded there.

sowari

 

So inside the full Abbey Road soundpacks, can you alter the mappings of individual samples to be triggered by the notes you want?

To take my previous example, if I wanted to have the samples that are on G#1 and F4 by default be triggered by C2 and C#2, respectively, this is possible inside Abbey Road itself, is it? So you can effectively make your own kits up?

Not owning any of the full Abbey Road kits, I did not know this and it is, indeed, good and the purpose I would have used MIDI mode for.

 

Yes! It's real nice and easy to use right on the front gui. Just click on the image of the drum you want to map in the picture and click the learn button and press the pad you want. Reapeat for all 16 pads and done. I also like how you can use the template kits to build your own drum kits peice by peice. It is very flexible and easy to use. Not to mention the drum are all top notch. Everyone should have these. You can basically build your own custom drum sets with various blends of mic positions etc. They really went to town on these.

 

Thank you. I think I shall try a Maschine and see what it can do for me. You really can change the mapping from kontakt! What notes do the pads send by default and do these ever change if you e.g. change kits inside of maschine?

Could anyone make a more elaborate comparison with abbey road maschine versions and the full kontakt instruments versions?