Abletlon Live 8/Maschine Loop mod problem

I am currently using abletlon live 8 and maschine 1.7, and when i have loop mode enabled my maschines first note of the begging of the loop does not sound.

So if i have ableton looping and it loops those specific bars of maschine as well the first note that plays in the begging of maschine does not sound.

This only happens in loop mode then the certain bars are repeating if i play it straight from the beggining it doesnt have that problem if i play the track from the begining when its not looping.

Sometimes the sound does play sometimes it doesnt when its looping kinda odd

thanks for any help guys!

 

its weird because sometimes it plays the note and sometimes it doesnt and i can see that the pad does not light up at the beginning of the loop. i dont know if it has to do with audio buffer or the loop marker placement in ableton and maschine not perfectly lined up?
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grid

Oki found a work around that kinda works but i dont know if this is good for my work flow but when im looping in ableton live and have set the loop markers on a 8 bar loop and the loop marker is perfectly quantized at 8 bars it will sometimes miss my first notes of my maschine pattern looping as well...

so what i have had to do is zoom in all the way in ableton live 8 and slightly nudge the beginning of the loop marker to the left...for some reason when i do that maschines first notes of my loop pattern always plays..

its almost like ableton live and maschine is not 100 percent alligned somehow? dunno feedback would be nice!

 

jus checking in

still hope some one knows how to fix this. its a big pain lol

 

can you clarify something:

how many Scenes do you have in Maschine? are you looping a certain Scene in Maschine, for instance, if you are looping bars 9-16 in Ableton does that correspond to Scene 2 in Maschine?

or maybe you just have 1 Scene in Maschine?

anyway i have also found that the Scene in Maschine does not loop correctly - and i have filed a bug report. a workaround - especially for multi-scenes - is to use Program Change from my DAW to trigger the different Maschine Scenes.

sowari

 

scenes

so lets say for instance what i do is start a new project i then load mashcine, set temp then head to arrangement mode.

Ill set the loop marker for a 8 bar loop and start at Bar 3 then end at Bar 11(i keep a 2 bar buffer with is bar 1 and 2). I also only use 2 scenes in maschine. So the first scene has 6 bars total with bars 1 and 2 empty just like on ableton so when i hit play from bar one on ableton its empty in maschine too then my groove starts at bar 3. The rest of the 4 bars have my groove. Then on scene 2 its just 4 bar loop.

I have maschine looping scene 1 and 2.

So when ableton loops mashcine ends at scene 2 and begins back at scene 1 at bar 3 in maschine and bar 3 in ableton. This is where it misses the first note. When it changes from scene 2 back to scene 1 , Bar 3. The first notes wich is a usually like a kick and hi hat for me are not played.

 

okay, in my scenario, i have a number of 8 bar scenes in Maschine. if i set Ableton to loop from bar 9 for 8 bars Maschine will loop Scene 2 - as have all of my Maschine Scenes 'bracketed'.

when i hit play in Ableton the first notes in Maschine - Scene 2 - are triggered, but when the loop starts again, there is an audible glitch - either the first notes are cut short or they do not play.

i think we have noted a similar problem ? correct me if i am wrong

as i said before, i have filed a bug report.

fwiw, i get the same problem in Logic.

and as i said before, if i have Program Changes to trigger Maschine Scenes, i don't get the glitch.

sowari

 

yes i think your right because sometimes the note does play and sometimes it doesnt. most of the time it doesnt play and can sometimes hear that glitch you are talking about.

this only happens when maschine changes scenes . if i just make a loop and use 1 scene(use 1 scene for all of the 8 bar loop including the 2 bars of emptiness) and let that loop with ableton it does not do this.

Can you explain your workaround? and ill see if i can put up a video of it happening because maybe we are not the only ones.

Maybe somebody can try to recreate this bug.

 

i basically insert Program changes into Logic's arrange and have them select the Maschine Scenes. there is stuff about that in the manual about using either Program Change or Notes to trigger Scenes.

in Ableton you can have Program Changes inserted in the 'Clips', so each time you launch a clip it will send a Program Change message. i presume you can also do this in the Arrange page as well.

does this make sense?

sowari

 

yes def makes sense thanks soo much for the work around tip

i wonder if anyone else has this issue?