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Solved Ableton Live 11 needs a new Midi Scripts for Maschine Controllers

Dieses Thema im Forum "MASCHINE Area" wurde erstellt von SBkillabeatz, 15. Januar 2021.

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  1. SBkillabeatz

    SBkillabeatz NI Product Owner

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    I just wanted to let ya'll know that Ableton Live 11 needs a new Midi Script for Maschine Studio since they updated their Python.

    Would be great if NI could make a new one until Live 11 comes out.
     
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  2. Kaldosh

    Kaldosh Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for letting me know. I'd rather not upgrade without it .
     
  3. Philippe

    Philippe Well-Known Member

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    same for mk3
     
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  4. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    The MIDI Script for the MK3 was never finished and never will be, it's legacy... You might be referring to the "Integration" Script that has the fancy-looking mixer, the latter doesn't work in the current A-Live version for the M+ either btw.
     
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  5. Koktailmolotov

    Koktailmolotov NI Product Owner

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    My MK3 works perfectly with Ableton 10. Currently using MK3 + Push2 all together. I use Mk3 for sampling and Push for all the rest of workflows. Amazing stuff
     
  6. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    People are talking specifically about the scripts tho.. The Studio script lets you see Abletons Channel names, device names, navigate them, launch Ableton Clips, and do a lot of other stuff, it's about using the controller to control Ableton, totally unrelated to using it normally to control Maschine Plugin. As previously stated the script is Legacy for the MK3.

    I don't have my MK3 anymore to test, the "Integration" looks like this:
    [​IMG]
    The above is the Ableton Mixer on the MK3..

    Is either of those two things working for ya?
     
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  7. SBkillabeatz

    SBkillabeatz NI Product Owner

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    From Ableton directly :

    " As mentioned in the Beta 23 release notes third-party Remote Control Scripts might not work or not appear in the Preferences due to an update to Python 3.
    If you experience this please contact the original author and ask for an update to re-establish Live compatibility."

    That's why i made the post.
     
  8. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    SBkillabeatz Try the attached script, I used an automated tool that updates the syntax from Python2 to Python3, no guarantee it will work but worth a try. It makes it show up in the remote script list of AL V11.0b23 but I have no Mas-Studio to test.
     

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  9. jeblo

    jeblo NI Product Owner

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    Any chance you can update the Jam script, too?
     
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  10. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    Sure, check if it works.
     

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  11. SBkillabeatz

    SBkillabeatz NI Product Owner

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    the script shows up in live now but it only works for the pads to play. the other functions don't seem to work properly like clip launch or arm or mute
     
  12. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    Ahh too bad. Then you guys will have to wait for NI or someone with real python knowledge to do it.
    I didn't had much hope that auto conversion would work for complex scripts but it didn't hurt to try.
     
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  13. jeblo

    jeblo NI Product Owner

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    Thanks, D-One. However, as expected, it's not working either.
    Not a smart move by Ableton, as probably legacy scripts will not be maintained by the vendors.
     
  14. Koktailmolotov

    Koktailmolotov NI Product Owner

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    When I turn on my Ableton and MK3, I see the following.

    IMG_5747.JPG


    What is the script that you are using allowing you to see the mixer like your screenshot? And how can I install it ? xD
     
  15. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    There are two links in the exact post you quoted, blue and underlined, click them.

    Technology has to move forward eventually tho... IMO If the vendor doesn't care about updating and this is important for you then you should avoid that vendor. I think most vendors will update after AL11's official release, most scripts are simple and shouldn't require too much work from the devs (afaik)
    If you're using legacy hw then... chances diminish exponentially. :(
     
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  16. DataStrainMusic

    DataStrainMusic NI Product Owner

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    Personally I'm not expecting any type of update for Maschine's Ableton scripts.

    They've had a few years to update the host integration and midi control scripts but they've made it pretty clear they have no interest in this anymore.
     
  17. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    Again, this topic gets confusing because there are two types of "scripts", I expect everything that works now for the latest models (MK3/Mas+) to be updated and everything else probably not. It might be because their data points to not many people using the controllers for this (?)
     
  18. d0stenning

    d0stenning NI Product Owner

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    Ableton 11 will be out of beta soon - but there is still to my knowledge no NI script for support for MASCHINE JAM in Ableton 11

    Please NI! rectify this!!!!
     
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  19. Philippe

    Philippe Well-Known Member

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    What I get is this message.

    Capture d’écran 2021-02-01 à 23.44.34.png

    So it's about integration feature which is broken ?
     
  20. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    Yes.
     
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