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Bug Absynth 5.3.4 does not start in Windows 10 (ABS5-948)

Dieses Thema im Forum "ABSYNTH" wurde erstellt von Tommi Grönlund, 19. März 2021.

  1. Tommi Grönlund

    Tommi Grönlund New Member

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    I have tried to load Absynth 5.3.4 as standalone and this never starts. If I try to load a patch in Komplete Kontrol, the whole software crashes and Absynth is not found by Reason (11) nor Cubase Pro (11) in their VSTs. I have reinstalled the software with Native Access and that didn't help - what's wrong?

    Another piece of my Komplete ultimate is FM8 that never gets started as well.

    Note : these applications don't crash - they never show anything as if they never get started..
     
  2. hmarkstrom

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    Have the same problem. Absynth 5.3.4 don't start and if I try to start Absyth in Komplete Kontrol then Komplete Kontrol chrases. Have as you Windows 10.
     
  3. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    Super weird, it's as if something didn't install properly.

    Can you try, instead of repairing in Native Access, first uninstall using the standard Windows procedure (Add/Remove Programs), then reinstalling from NA? Double-check the VST plugin paths in NA preferences before installing.
     
  4. Tommi Grönlund

    Tommi Grönlund New Member

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    Thanks for the update - I tried that two times with FM8 and Absynth but unfortunately that didn't help. Also checked from Registry that under HKLM/Software/Native Instruments there was no FM8 or Absynth after uninstall (they got removed) - the behaviour after uninstall and reinstalling via Native Access was exactly the same : they don't appear in Cubase (or Reason) and standalone apps never even start correctly. I can still find them both in Komplete Kontrol (64 bit) and sound preview works but when I try to load a preset, the whole Komplete Kontrol just crashes (disappears). I also deleted %USER%\AppData\Native Instruments\FM8 and Absynth folder to get kind of "fresh" start without any previous settings but unfortunately that didn't help.

    This is too bad since especially with FM8 I do like the sounds and would definitely use them if just could..
     
  5. Tommi Grönlund

    Tommi Grönlund New Member

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    One weird thing I noticed : in registry under HKLM\...\Native Instrument I couldn't find Komplete 13 although I definitely have that - only entries for the older versions (of which I haven't even installed) like Komplete 8, Komplete 11 and Komplete 12 Ultimate..
     
  6. René must be Unique

    René must be Unique NI Product Owner

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    I cannot reproduce this.
    Maschine + Absynth plugin, KK and Absynth and FM8 standalone work without any problem here.
    Everything running at the same time.

    Ab-FM-KK and maschine.PNG

    KOMPLETE 13 ULTIMATE Collectors Edition, also not listed in my register.
    What version of windows is running?
    I am running on W10P version 1903

    René
     
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  7. Tommi Grönlund

    Tommi Grönlund New Member

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    Edition Windows 10 Enterprise
    Version 20H2
    Installed on ‎5.‎10.‎2020
    OS build 19042.870
    Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.551.0
     
  8. René must be Unique

    René must be Unique NI Product Owner

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    Do you use one or more (windows) users?
    Have you already tried to start Absynth with Admin mode?
    I suspect it has something to do with rights.

    René
     
  9. ShelLuser

    ShelLuser NI Product Owner

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    And pardon to be 'that' guy but... Windows 10 Enterprise, is that a full legit version of Windows?

    Reason I'm asking is because I'm well aware of some issues and hiccups which occur with "alternative versions" so to speak. This is actually somewhat by design and in which case the only thing to do in order to work seriously with that is to get a serious version. So a legit one, either home or pro for example.

    No real need to answer this question but... yah, I can't help wonder if this isn't the cause of your issues here. Seriously: the time where "Enterprise" was the "best" Windows version to get are long behind us. Unless you have a matching infrastructure to back it up there's really nothing you can do with Enterprise that you cannot do with Pro for example.
     
  10. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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  11. Tommi Grönlund

    Tommi Grönlund New Member

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    Well, I tried to run as admin and I have just one user. Also, every other instrument in my Komplete Ultimate seems to work just normally, including all the expansions and Kontakt instruments. This probably doesn't matter but I have AMD processor..here are more detailed specs of my computer:

    System Information report written at: 03/27/21 19:10:20
    System Name: DESKTOP-GD4EN8E
    [System Summary]

    Item Value
    OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise
    Version 10.0.19042 Build 19042
    Other OS Description Not Available
    OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    System Name DESKTOP-GD4EN8E
    System Manufacturer System manufacturer
    System Model System Product Name
    System Type x64-based PC
    System SKU SKU
    Processor AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor, 3793 Mhz, 12 Core(s), 24 Logical Processor(s)
    BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 2802, 21.10.2020
    SMBIOS Version 3.3
    Embedded Controller Version 255.255
    BIOS Mode UEFI
    BaseBoard Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
    BaseBoard Product ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING
    BaseBoard Version Rev X.0x
    Platform Role Desktop
    Secure Boot State Off
    PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible
    Windows Directory C:\Windows
    System Directory C:\Windows\system32
    Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
    Locale United Kingdom
    Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.19041.844"
    Username DESKTOP-GD4EN8E\Tommi Grönlund
    Time Zone FLE Standard Time
    Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 32,0 GB
    Total Physical Memory 31,9 GB
    Available Physical Memory 19,3 GB
    Total Virtual Memory 36,7 GB
    Available Virtual Memory 20,6 GB
    Page File Space 4,75 GB
    Page File C:\pagefile.sys
    Kernel DMA Protection Off
    Virtualisation-based security Running
    Virtualisation-based security required security properties
    Virtualisation-based security available security properties Base Virtualisation Support, DMA Protection, Mode Based Execution Control
    Virtualisation-based security services configured
    Virtualisation-based security services running
    Device Encryption Support Reasons for failed automatic device encryption: TPM is not usable, PCR7 binding is not supported, Hardware Security Test Interface failed and the device is not Modern Standby, Un-allowed DMA-capable bus/device(s) detected, TPM is not usable
    A hypervisor has been detected. Features required for Hyper-V will not be displayed.
     
  12. ShelLuser

    ShelLuser NI Product Owner

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    That's not my point. The point is that most people who run illegal versions focus on Enterprise because that's "the best". And in most (definitely not all) cases where you run into Enterprise versions + common problems the issue of running an illegal outdated version can cause all sorts of ickyness.

    It's actually Microsoft's new (unofficial) way of handling this: continuing to update the main Windows version(s) to such extend that some hiatus can occur if you're running behind updates.

    (edit): In this case this doesn't appear to be an issue though.
     
  13. Tommi Grönlund

    Tommi Grönlund New Member

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    Well, I do have licensed version of Windows 10 Enterprise as I work with this machine as well (not on music but other things) and yes, I do have all the latest updates on it as well.
     
  14. ShelLuser

    ShelLuser NI Product Owner

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    Considering the fact that so many individual components act up I can't help wonder about hardware. What happens if you run a thorough memorytest? Does that reveal anything here?
     
  15. Luebbi

    Luebbi New Member

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    Hi
    I have the same problem: Absynth and FM8 doesn't start. Older Version works fine. I have found an entry in the windows event viewer. It seems, that booth FM8 and Absynth crashs on startup. Here is the eventlog:

    Name der fehlerhaften Anwendung: FM8.exe, Version: 1.4.4.104, Zeitstempel: 0x6038d0de
    Name des fehlerhaften Moduls: ucrtbase.dll, Version: 10.0.19041.789, Zeitstempel: 0x2bd748bf
    Ausnahmecode: 0xc0000409
    Fehleroffset: 0x000000000007286e
    ID des fehlerhaften Prozesses: 0x27a4
    Startzeit der fehlerhaften Anwendung: 0x01d720d17447851f
    Pfad der fehlerhaften Anwendung: C:\Program Files\Native Instruments\FM8\FM8.exe
    Pfad des fehlerhaften Moduls: C:\WINDOWS\System32\ucrtbase.dll
    Berichtskennung: c0ac8e36-3a52-44da-9e2d-4c515ff28fdc
    Vollständiger Name des fehlerhaften Pakets:
    Anwendungs-ID, die relativ zum fehlerhaften Paket ist:
     
  16. René must be Unique

    René must be Unique NI Product Owner

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    This is interesting, UCRTBASE.DLL is part of C ++.
    Can you check which version is on your system?

    René
     
  17. Luebbi

    Luebbi New Member

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    The file-version is 10.0.19041.789 from 2021-02-10 14:38. The property-page says, the file is part of the operating system.
    I have installed the lates VC++ 2015-2019 redist x64 (14.28.29913)
    Windows Version is Win 10 Pro 20H2

    Luebbi
     
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  18. René must be Unique

    René must be Unique NI Product Owner

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    That's right but it is an MS C runtime library
    The version on my system is 10.18362.267
    Date: 5-10-2019

    René
     
  19. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I wonder if some VC++ redistributable is missing perhaps.
     
  20. Luebbi

    Luebbi New Member

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    Wich VC++ redistributable is needed for Absynth/FM8?