Absynth and RTAS

Well boys and girls I've been emailing info for awaile and they aren't responding so my question is did native instruments scrap the idea to make a RTAS version of absynth 2, or are they still in the works considering its been in the works for more than a year now. The thing that sucks is I already own absynth 1 but I'm not going to buy 2 untill It works with RTAS and protools since I don't use PT5 and they ditched direct connect when 6 came, it really sucks that digidesign did this but native instruments have been pulling my tail and many others for a long time know, all I want to now is if its ever going to be made? And if so please include some info to when its going to be released.

Thank You,
Rich

 

I feel your pain. Exact same situation. I have tracks that I wrote on my Mac / Absynth / PT setup that I can't touch now that I've moved to PC.

Word is that they are working on it. I hate to say that it looks like they won't even deliver this year at the rate they are going and their blatent disregard for their delivery dates.

All we can do is continue to voice our disappointment and hope that they will deliver it as fast as they can...

 

RTAS

In composing work, I know a lot of people switching to OS X now. An Absynth RTAS plug is one of the last things we're waiting on.

 

RTAS, Well midi is working with midi patchbay

For now I use Protools midi via midi patchbay to record in AbSynth.
Midi Patchbay is freeware
(http://pete.yandell.com/software/)
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Open Midi Patchbay (MPB) Create 2 new virtual instuments (one for in and one for out of MPB). Now remember the in and out are for in and out of midi patchbay. Is is a bit akward.)
i.e. VI #1= PT's to MPB, and VI#2 = MPB to ABsynth. Then launch ABSynth and open audio/midi settings. Go to midi in and turn off all an turn on MPB to ABsynth.
Now launch PT's and add a midi track. Output this track to "PT's to MPB"
This also works for any other soft native synth.
I am also in OS 10.2.8 and all is fine.

 

cheers etc.

Yep. Nice workaround advice. Thanks.
Gave it a quick try last night (I have a similar setup) and it seemed to work well (no stability issues, reliable results).

Note to NI:
- Thankfully, there are people out there willing to share bits of advice to workaround the current ridiculous situation.
The support of RTAS has been pretty poor overall, and is now far beyond the realms of asking customers to be "patient".

- The latest NI Schedule (updated 19-november) still claims a November release. One week to go, then?
On the other hand, given that the schedule "..is subject to change", it is once again looking doubtful that we will see the RTAS feature before the New Year.

- Whilst these "workarounds" other users post in the forums are well-received by those who really have to keep their studio going as best as possible (myself included), it is unbelievable that we are still waiting for 'a piece of code' that was, quite frankly, missing from the purchased upgrade several months ago.

- In any other business, we would be eligible for compensation of some sort. This is not a case of waiting for "Added Features". We are waiting for the basic functionality that will allow us to use Absynth in our Sequencer/Audio Recording package as originally intended. In short - the RTAS plug-in functionality is fundamental to the everyday use of a virtual synth!

- To sell a "paid upgrade" of a virtual synth which does then not work (until a later update finally appears at some undetermined time in the future) is scandalous.
Not only did NI fail to adequately warn customers (who use ProTools) that an upgraded Absynth would not work until the RTAS update is released, they have further also failed to do anything about it in a reasonable timescale.

- It's a bit to late to return the Absynth 1 & 2 boxes and demand a refund, but I hope that NI is not too surprised when I say that recent events have certainly influenced our decision to purchase
further NI products. Our confidence in just how well NI will support RTAS in future has been undermined & compromised to the point of no return.

Nigel REYES
DeEsser Productions (France & UK)

 

I know that as soon as I get everything working right in OS X I will not be upgrading to anything else in the near future. I'm a Pro Tools user myself and I crossed over to OS X seven or eight months ago and I'm still not fully functional. To be honest with you I'm wondering if I'll ever really be fully functional. Reaktor still isn't stable as a RTAS plug-in. I've also found some glitches in Battery as a plug-in and I'm sure when the RTAS update comes out for Absynth it to will have glitches. So I think it's safe to say that any software I buy in the future will probally not be NIs.

 

Okay,,TCDETROIT,,i've just down loaded MPB and i've followed your instructions,,but i'm still not getting it to work,,what am i doing wrong,,?
I open the Ap,,open a new vertual input,,name it PT to MPB,,then i open a new vurtual out put,,name it MPB to AB 2,,
Open AB 2 select internal as the audio out and deselect all midi ins and outs except thoughs that i have made in MPB,,
Open PT,,open a new midi track and select its input as ALL and its out put as MPB to AB 2,,thats it,,i get nothing,,no midi is showing up in AB 2.
Can you post a 123 step by step for us stoopid folks,,
Also dose the sync to tempo work using this work arround with PT?
Cheers

 

Absynth2 RTAS support??

Does it exist?

C'mon guys, where's the Absynth 2 update for RTAS? I've bought it, and felt a bead of sweat on my brow when I couldn't find the word RTAS anywhere on the box or in the manual.
Any news? anyone from NI. Is there anyone in there?

 

good workaround, the only thing that sucks is you can't record audio into protools using that method, you can only compose via protools midi. Thats one of the only reasons I wan't to use absynth in RTAS, thanks for the workaround though. Native Instruments is pissing lots of protools users off.

 

You can record Audio into PT using this workarround,,launch PT,,Open MPB,,Open AB2,,inside AB2 select INTERNAL as your audio out,,now connect the audi out of your mac/pc to two inputs of your digi interface and assign thoughs inputs to tracks in side PT,,It's like using AB2 as a hardware synth.
If your on a mac,,you could probebly try getting more than one instance using the AU version and hosting it in RAX,,I havent done it yet,,but if this RTAS wait continues for much longer,,it might be an option,,Maybe some one could try it and let us know?

 

When?

Can't be bothered to write anymore so I'll keep it short.....

- RTAS update.
- Well...? When?

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Just for the record...

In case anyone at NI thought: "well, if those lowly ProTools users are now getting so bored that they can't be bothered to write and complain anymore, maybe we can take a break and work on something else..." just remember one thing:

WE ARE WAITING FOR AN UPDATE THAT IS DUE TO US!!
WE HAVE PAID OUR MONEY FOR A PRODUCT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THAT STILL DOES NOT WORK AS IT SHOULD.
BLOODY WELL GIVE US OUR F***KING UPDATE SO THAT WE CAN FINALLY USE THE DAMN THING AND THEN WE CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR OUR PRODUCTS IN FUTURE!!

DAMMIT, IT'S LIKE GETTING A CAR BUT NO KEYS TO START THE ENGINE....

Fµ*************KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!

 

JANUARY 2004 ?!!



JUST CHECKED THE SCHEDULE...ANOTHER SLIP: JANUARY 2004

MERRY CHRISTMAS & A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU TOO.

Ho, BLOODY, HO...............

 

Well, I'm glad I came here to check on things before updating. I have Absynth, FM7, and Battery, and was just next week going to do my upgrades for OS X.

I guess that Absynth upgrade money will go towards my Reason upgrade instead.

I certainly am not going to upgrade a product if I can't use it. That just doesn't make any financial sense.

That really kind of sucks, but at least I personally don't have a lot of projects that will *need* Absynth coming up soon. I really feel sorry for those of you who do, especially if you have a new machine that can't boot 9.

 

There's still a very good chance that we can get the RTAS plugin out before the holidays, but RTAS is significantly different from AU/VST so that's why we put January in the calendar.

I know that all Protools and Absynth users are very upset by the persistent delays of Absynth RTAS. I will do my best to keep you informed of the development progress, but I know that's no consolation.

We're currently nearing the end of the beta-phase of the 2.04 update. This is primarily a bug-fix update that offers *significant* stability enhancements on all three platforms (OS9, OSX, and PC) under VST, AU (Logic only), and DXi.

As soon as the 2.04 update is released online we will focus on RTAS. The good news is that RTAS will benefit from all of the bug fixes that went into 2.04.

If you have any more specific questions, please feel free to ask me.

Sincerely,

Jake

 

come on its been a year allready, or better yet more. Theres no reason why it should take that long to make, Native instruments have been the only company that has been pushing one product back, which is one of there most powerfull soft synths and poeple are waiting and are pissed, and then are realeasing more products and working on new ones while everyone who uses protools 6 and OSX (which by the way is now shipped with every new mac) are waiting, also I'm sure new protools users who just picked up the platform are going to feel left out too. And I doubt the software team is big enough to be doing multiple projects considering theres help wanted adds all over the site. Do us all a favor work one at a time, and get the rtas versions of all of your soft synths before Native instruments works on any new products, your losing costumers, dwindiling your user base, and giving Native Instruments a horrible rep.

 

I simply can't understand why it should take so long. Absynth 1 worked with RTAS. New NI apps work in RTAS for protools 6 in xp and osx. I'm not naive enough to think that you just copy and paste the code, but the architecture must be established, no? Just plug it in, there should be no R&D I would think.

I'm completely in LIMBO. I hate to say it, but Absynth is such as awesome product that I really feel like my hands are tied until I can get it running in PT to do anything creative.

You're killing us NI!

 

I've been using ABSYNTH since befor N-I picked it up,,and unless i'm totaly missing somthing,,it has never suported RTAS,,

 

I think homebelly's right, theres never been a RTAS version of Absynth, theres a direct connect version that used to work with protools on OS9, Digidesign dropped direct connect support in PT6 and OSX. Since then Native Instruments have been promising Protools users that there will be a RTAS version made so everyone could use there synth seemlessly with there sequencers, some poeple brought Absynth 2 when it was first released promised they would recieve a RTAS upgrade patch that makes it RTAS compatible, Native Instruments said it would be done I think 3 months after its release, I think its been about a year plus and they just put up the new update expectency at the end of that month then when that wasn't fufilled they push it back another month untill it happens again; and its been going on for a long time now and poeple are getting fed up.

 

Excuse me?Absynth 2's been out for four and a half months-since the middle of July.Where do you get your over a year figure?
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