Alternative tunings

Hi,

As I'm just beginning to work with Reaktor (coming from Max/MSP), I didn't explored such possibilities yet.

The tuning files I use are already text files. (Scala or TUN formats.)

Thanks all for your positive encouragements!
;-)

 

then check in th manuel but once you have the right format,a modulo module with pitch and constant twelve will give you at the divide output the octave and at the modulo output the notes use the modulo to read the table and add it to modulo and divide ifs it'relative tuning or just divide if it's absolute tuning for a é' tone use a constanr of 24 if you want two in the same table 24 and 12 tone scale use aonther table (1..the number of scale in your table) and plug it into the divide module.
have fun!

 

I have uploaded MICTROTUNING to the user library

ciao herw

 

According to the website for the Scala program (http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf/scala/), the program exports tuning data in a format that can be read by the internal tuning tables of Reaktor, FM7 and Pro-52. I've downloaded Scala and used it to export a file in "Native Instruments" format. The program outputs a text file containing a tuning dump. The text file contains a single line with 128 tuning entries (in MHz), each separated by a space. Using Scala, you can export any of the 3,000+ Scala files to this format.

Has anybody actually used a tuning dump like this to alter Reaktor's tuning? If so, could you explain how you did it? Short of that, can anyone simply confirm that Reaktor can read a tuning dump file in this format?

 

just ploughing through Ableton's Live4 Newsletter. Tons of new features, this is interesting, I quote:

"…Live 4 also includes 5 MIDI effects. The ‘Scale' effect, for instance, forces incoming notes onto a chosen musical scale and fits well with 'Random,' which creates random deviations in note pitch…"

 

Came across this, looks great for NI instruments.

L'il_Miss'_Scale_Oven™
Scale Analysis and Editing Tool
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com/

Mac OS9/X

I will probably order it, will let you know.

 

NI's Absynth does scales as well, I can remember a Werkmeister-scale in the old pre-NI version.

 

Check out the link for LMSO I posted, not only is Reaktor, FM7, Pro 53 included as directly supported but also Absynth and Kontact! (even Reason too!). I am ordering (through snail mail unfortunately) today.

 

There's also "Max Magic Microtuner" ($69) for Mac OS 9/X:
<http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/16tone/>

This is the tool I'm using to build and edit my own scales.
;-)

 

Re: Alternative tunings - tip on fractional intervals

I planned to post a tip I found when exploring alternate
tunings a long while ago.

I couldn't find a perfectly relevant topic so I picked
this one.

I had read 'On the Sensations of Tone' and the Wilkinson
book on temperament and then I used an Ensonig VFX which
allowed tuning tables and I tried a few experiments.

I thought about using scales based on 'magic numbers'
like intervals of phi, pi, e, or whatever.

Crucial to this was a tip I want to show you. It is based
on the premise that the most pleasing intervals are those
based on small fractions, like 1/2, 4/3, etc.

What I wanted to do was find an equal-temperament scale
that was close to an arbitrary number. For example,
suppose I like the number '1.265625'. No reason, it's
arbitrary.

I wanted to find a tuning that would allow exact mappings
to that interval.

The method of 'continued fractions' is appropriate, as
outlined below, plus the fact that most people can not
distinguish pitches that differ by more than about 3
cents.

To find the number of cents (c) in an interval f1:f2 = R
2**(c/1200) = R
therefore, c = 1200 log R/log 2 =

c(R) = 3986.313713865 log R

c(f1:f2) = 3986.313713865 log (f1/f2)
= 3986.313713865 log f1 - 3986.313713865 log f2
= c(f1) - c(f2)


So here is the general idea, let us find a whole numbered
fraction that approximates our number (1.265625, in this
example). Then we can make a scale of intervals with the
equally-tempered component the denominator of our fraction.

1.265625 = 1 + 265625/1000000 =
1 + 1/(1000000/265625) =
1 + 1/(3 + 203125/265625) =
1 + 1/(3 + 1/(265625/203125)) =
1 + 1/(3 + 1/(1 + 62500/203125)) =
1 + 1/(3 + 1/(1 + 4/13)) =
1 + 1/(3 + 1/(1 + 1/(13/4))) =
1 + 1/(3 + 1/(1 + 1/(3 + 1/4)))

first approx: 1 + 1/3 = 4:3 = 498 cents
second: 1 + 1/(3 + 1) = 5:4 = 386 cents
third: 1 + 1/(3 + 1/(1+1/3) = 19:15 = 409 cents
fourth: complete term = 81:64 = 408 cents

Since there is no discernable different between 408 and
409 cents, to the ear 81:64 = 19:15. So we can map our
number to a 15 equal tempered scale.

Simlarly this can be use to make scales for multiple
numbers. If we want a scale that harmonizes intervals of
phi = 1..61803399... and e = 2.71828183... at the same
time, exploit the continued fraction for each and take
the LCD (lowest common denominator) of the denomimators
for your tuning.

 

aren't there some alternative tuning macros somewhere in the 3/4 library?

 

Re: Alternative tunings - tip on fractional intervals

Of course I meant LESS than 3 cents.

The human ear can discern about 3.459 cents: @500 Hz one can
discern 1 Hz difference - depends on freq., loudness, etc.


- my two cents....

 

I posted a pair of alternative scale macros at http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?id=userlibrary_us&type=0&ulbr=1&plview=detail&patchid=5213. They're for 12-note scales, and contain Werckmeister, Kirnberger, 1/6 comma, and several others. One of them lets you experiment with just intonation ratios.

 

I remember high school orchestra --- now THERE were some "alternate" tunings!!