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Amazing Update so far!

Dieses Thema im Forum "iMaschine" wurde erstellt von MFRedoom, 22. Mai 2014.

  1. MFRedoom

    MFRedoom Member

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    Thank you for updating this very fine bit of software! Sample start end is great and the file browser is SO MUCH more user friendly. "Minor" details such as the awesome browser, quick interface access, and the ability to rename and delete samples make or break apps that are made for getting ideas out quick. I am sure this will keep me very busy for a while even though I never put the original down ...but Audiobus fellas ( you too retronyms ), cmon you know you want to.

    Thanks again,

    JR
     
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  2. MFRedoom

    MFRedoom Member

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    Mute and History are also welcome additions to the app. I am finding it to be even more "playable" than before.

    Thumbs UP!
     
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  3. BombBeats71

    BombBeats71 NI Product Owner

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    Indeed a welcome update but after the freshness is gonna after 30 minutes you'll see that many of the complaints are still there.
    No audiobus (couldn't find it), No chopping, timestretching, seq edit, etc
    So yes, it's a good free upgrade but still lacking way behind and i hoped for more. I even dare to say that it's dissapointing to see that this is all we got after 2 years of silcence.
     
  4. skizm

    skizm Forum Member

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    iMaschine was never meant to compete with iOS music production tools that are intended to work in other iOS hosts like Audiobus/iAA compatible apps. The point of iMaschine has always been to be a mobile sketch tool for desktop Maschine users.
     
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  5. MoodyAuthentic

    MoodyAuthentic Forum Member

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    No need to chop if you can load the same sample multiple times and set the end/start points. Honestly, that's how I do it on the maschine anyway.
     
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  6. mongoslade

    mongoslade NI Product Owner

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    You load the same sample 16 times then dial in each chop manually? That's takin' it back to Akai S900 days.
     
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  7. kcearl

    kcearl NI Product Owner

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    Basic midi editing...otherwise its no better than the previous version
     
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  8. djUP

    djUP New Member

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    Is there no way some version of the update can be made compatible with ios5.1?
    I'm stuck with an ipad1 here but was looking forward to an update. Can't even dload the nice free kits.
    Hopefully this can be done.
     
  9. BombBeats71

    BombBeats71 NI Product Owner

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    Then how come is it still a pain to import your project into Maschine. Nobody likes to use Itunes for exchanging files.
    I mean why not also have a dropbox option ?
     
  10. THE WIDOWMAKER

    THE WIDOWMAKER NI Product Owner

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    Shame that no pad mutes etc or fx automation recorded
    Would also be great if you could step a pattern instead if live record all the time
     
  11. biggcess

    biggcess NI Product Owner

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    Too little, too late.

    Of all the possible functionalities and capabilities that could (should) have been added to this update we get this?!?!!

    IMHO, massive let down.
     
  12. skizm

    skizm Forum Member

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    I think you guys are still missing the point of iMaschine. NI has to walk the fine line of providing a fast and simple mobile sketch tool for dekstop Maschine users while not cannibalizing the sales of desktop Maschine products.
     
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  13. M. Olds

    M. Olds New Member

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    I am so sad that they still haven't included audio copy/paste. Ausiobus would be even better, but I'll settle for ACP. I have now realized that neither will ever happen. As stupid a decision as that is, it seems like NI is determined to keep it status quo. So here is my request: at least make imaschine beats easily compatible with traktor for iphone. If NI wants to keep it in house, fine. If you don't want your kids to play with the other kids, that's your right. You made the software.
    But, PLEASE, let your sqwares play together. Create some sort of code that will allow for audio transfer between imaschine and traktor, WITHOUT the need for itunes file sharing.
    I'm getting to the point where I don't know what else to request or how to request it. You've already made me completely gun-shy of your hardware. I can't be sure that your hardware isn't just as frustratingly incompatible as your software. If this continues, i will also stay away from your software.
    I will never buy maschine. I do everything on ios. I don't NEED imaschine. I have Nanostudio and Beatmaker2. I LIKE imaschine. That's why I still use it. I see so much potential in it. But your insistence on keeping it shut in runs you the risk of losing my interest completely and forever.
    Nonetheless, thanks for the new sample packs. The updated interface looks very nice. The ability to import samples from iTunes is much appreciated.
    Let us use these features with other apps, please. AT LEAST with NI apps.
    Ugh.
    I don't know what else to say.
     
  14. MoodyAuthentic

    MoodyAuthentic Forum Member

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    I feel that I have much better control doing it that way. Besides, goes fast if you use the controller. Rarely do I chop it up 16 times though. Maybe 8
     
  15. M. Olds

    M. Olds New Member

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    People who buy imaschine are people who probably won't buy Maschine. Either because of expense or because they don't want to learn a new piece of hardware or because they use ios for everything. I would argue that NI is making a sketchpad that steers people away from their hardware, murdering sales opportunities in order to avoid cannibalizing them. My personal experience is that I don't want to deal with a company that makes such rigid hardware. It inhibits workflow, causes frustration, and calls into question whether NI is really balanced between pursuit of profit and pursuit of music.
    I am not interested in buying Maschine as a result of iMaschine. Why buy a piece of harware for between $400 and $1000 dollars if it carries the risk of being rigid and unable to play with other instruments? While admittedly limited, such has been my experience with NI so far.
     
  16. MoodyAuthentic

    MoodyAuthentic Forum Member

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    Play it right the first time and you won't miss it :)
     
  17. skizm

    skizm Forum Member

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    I would certainly welcome any of those suggestions if NI implements them but the thing is, the main purpose and priority for iMaschine is to be a mobile sketch tool for dekstop Maschine. Also, iMaschine outputs standard audio files, so in addition to bringing full project files into desktop Maschine, you can use the audio samples in any other tool.

    There is absolutely no way that Beatmaker 2 or Nanostudio and iMaschine are supposed to serve the same purpose, so that's comparing apples with pears.

    Also, NI makes state of the art tools that cost several hundreds of dollars. I wouldn't let your experience with a $5 tablet app, that is extremely streamlined with a limited set of controls by design for a specific purpose, close your mind to their flagship products.
     
  18. CoolDerb

    CoolDerb Forum Member

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    I think the point is people are questioning N.I.'s motives which for better or worse seem to revolve around greed rather than providing their customers with the best tools possible. Perception is everything. I realize they are a for-profit entity, but customer service is important, brand-loyalty is important. N.I. has been known to leave loyal customers high and dry as in the case of Kore. So, consumers have to be cognizant of those factors when deciding whether to spend hard earned money on ANY of their products. If they will nickel and dime us over a $5 app. imagine what they will do over a $500 product. I could care less what imaschine was 'designed to be'. Give the people what they want, don't force them to accept sub-par products that only fit your narrow-minded interests (not you per-se, I'm reffering to N.I the company)
     
  19. skinsfandc

    skinsfandc Forum Member

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    I love the update. Thanks NI!
     
  20. skizm

    skizm Forum Member

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    I'm sure there are some people who are like that but that doesn't mean all "people who buy imaschine" are like that. I could also say "people who buy iMaschine are people who probably already have Maschine" and it would be just as valid as the statement you made.

    I would argue that NI is making a sketchpad that allows them to make sketches while on the go and bring the project into their desktop Maschine to flesh it out.

    What do you mean by "rigid hardware"? I'm glad the Maschine hardware has an sturdy rigid build. Or are you saying Maschine on the desktop is "rigid" and is "unable to play with other instruments" just because files from iMaschine on iOS cannot be imported directly into Traktor on your iPhone and has to use iTunes file sharing (or iFunbox) instead? Do you know about the existence of VST/AU plugins and DAWs that host those plugins on the desktop?

    As far as questioning "whether NI is really balanced between pursuit of profit and pursuit of music", do you have some sort of belief that NI is supposed to be both a business and some sort of non-profit charity organization whose ultimate goal is "the pursuit of music" over profit? As far as I know, NI is a business that operates within a capitalist system in pursuit of profit, first and foremost. I'm sure they do realize that the innovative tools they make do contribute to furthering the direction of music but I very much doubt that they're worried about how someone, who only uses iOS apps and wants iMaschine to be the all-in-one production tool it was never meant to be, might come to the conclusion that NI actually are a business (as in, an entity that exists to make and sell products to gain profit revenue) and then decide to make nonsensical judgment about the rest of the product line without actually having much experience with them in the first place.