Amps I'd like to have models of in GR

I'm a fan of the classic old Mesa Boogie amps, and they are only rarely modeled in today's modellers. They all go for the Rectifier, but what about the Marks?

I'd love to see great amp models of:

Mesa Boogie Mark IV
Mesa Boogie Studio Preamp (great great lead channel)
Mesa Boogie Studio 22+ (WITH the 5-band graphic, please)
Mesa Boogie Mark I.

That would be so cool.

I dunno, there must be a lot of users who wish for their fav amps to be recreated in software, so they don't have to lug them around all the time.

On the other hand, I wouldn't like a mediocre model of my fav tone machines...

anyway, that's all just a humble wish I have...

Tammo

 

Man o man, I vote no for any Boogie. The studio 22 was the closest to a real tube amp but still no cigar.

Too cold and lifeless sounding compared to classic tube amps like Marshalls, Fenders, Ampeg and Gibsons.

I have seen many a musician dump their Boogie after playing a good hand wired tube map.

If you like Boogies, more power to ya brother but they sound dead to my ears and I have played close to 1000 tube amps that came through my repair shop over the years.

How about JTM 45, Marshall 20 watt and 18 watts, Gibson GA5 and tons of other cool sounding Gibsons, Fender Tweed Deluxe, Fender 5F6A Bassman, JCM 800 with the extra gain channel, etc.

 

Well, you do not like Boogies... But I'm a fan of a singing, fat, creamy high gain lead tone... and I've played some not-quite-cheap tube amps in search for that, too... Bogner, Brunetti, ENGL, Hughes&Kettner (Triamp, Duotone), Diezel... of all those, the only one I liked substantially better than a Mark series Boogie was the Diezel VH4, which was, alas, too expensive. I might get one in the future, though. Thus, I return to my Boogies again and again. They deliver for me. And that's why I wish to see them modeled.

slightly overdriven blooze tone simply isn't my thing - I like it, but don't use it often. And yes, I find a Boogie relentless and unforgiving, too. It's not an amp that "plays itself", like others that hush over the player's mistakes. But IMO they record great and sit in the mix very well. I AM biased towards them, though

Tammo

 

To each his own is the old saying. People like different things and that's what makes the world go round.

Play them Boogies, they need good homes.

 

I'm not sure the Gratifier was meant to emulate a Recto exclusively. Somewhere in the clean, raw, and vintage modes, and with the aging controls, you might have some luck creating Mark I and II presets. I don't have either of those amps on hand to do the A/B listening that would be required, but you should give it a shot.

Personally I've found the Gratifier to be very adaptable - it does a better job at certain fender tones than the fender model does.

 

Again, I've got to agree, particularly if the output tube distortion can be captured from those old Marshall 18 watters. That's the beauty of smaller amps at a gig, set the volume at 7+ and let it bleed, sheer heaven.

 

That Marshall 18 watt is a cool amp!

 

It sure is, I've never had a chance to play an original although I've seen and heard them. I have tried one of the new re-issues with the hand wired point to point chassis and it really sings (the price tag made me cringe however, more than I paid for a full stack in '72 I think)

I also have to say (and I think I'm in the minority here) that I really like the Marshall model in GR. Maybe it's because some of my most memorable experiences occurred before the company introduced the pre-amp/master gain series. My current fave setup is very simple. An old SG with soapbars, Marhall top, UK 70's cab with eq flat, air at about 1-2 o'clock and a 57 either straight or angled. Then I pop the treble boost in front of the top and I'm right "back in the day". I guess I just dated myself again.

 

Nothing like the sound of a raw tube amp rig that is cranked.

I don't even use any pedals, just a plexi type boutique amp cranked into a 4 x 12 marshal cab.

Guitar rig is fun for what it is, and it sure is fun to play with all the delays and at lower volume levels for practice.

There is no way to get a real good hand wired cranked tube amp sound in GR, but I still thinks it's fun to play with and record with.

By the way, I have modded some of the 20 watt marshall heads to have an extra stage of gain and those heads are also awesome!

 

Hi Rainman
I'm fully with you. When it comes to 70s english rock and Marshalls I'm a fussy bastard .The Marshall sim does it for me too .Roll off a bit of bass and frag with the speaker sims an I'm in Bad Company/Free/Mick Ronson rock heaven. I also add a bit off compression after the speaker sims. I also run a valve line pre before i run into git rig. I recommend everybody do this-it will open up your tone a lot more.
For direct home recording i have found no better tool than guitar rig.I also believe the Rectifier sim has almost endless uses too.
Boutique amps are just that- they are meant to be played and appreciated live. If you got the bucks to record them in a high class studio-go for it. But for playing in my home studio and recording direct Guitar Rig totally rocks.
And long live the marshall guitar rig sim I say!

 

Which valve pre-amp do you use?

 

I use a Tube Works 4001 valve pre. Excellent -and you can pick them up cheaply on ebay .
If you got the bucks-Demeter make a great quality valve pre or you can try a Aquilar or an Ampeg pre .I dont recommend the cheaper stuff like Behringer which is a combination of solid state with valve- all a bit of a gimmick really.
I love me tube works 4001 . Great pre with a nice warm top end and full bottom.It lets guitar rig get on and do its job properly.
also****remember kids-gain structure is everything !
JJ

 

I use the pre out on a marshall studio 15 ( great little valve amp ) with the cab simulations of guitar rig.

At the moment I can't get the same tone with guitar rig alone. It's a great piece of software - but in my mind not quite there.

 

I am gonna say the most needed amp in guitar rig would be an acoustic amp....... like an swr california blonde. with the stereo input you could process your electric pickups and your acoustic pickup at the same time.
lucia

 

Never had a need for such a thing. Not even sure what I would do with it.

 

i have piezos on the saddles of my strat. it would be nice to process it with guitar rig to.
lucia

 

yeah baby

Just finished building an 18 watter and am using a "Time Machine Boost" in front. It's all you'll ever need.

 

I still can't get over the sound of my Fender Blues Junior.

 

I have to say that my 90's English AC15 was the best amp I've ever touched.

But the question of whether or not it sounds like the AC15 in GR is moot. I'm pretty sure none of my buddies or my girlfriend could tell the difference. But they would be able to hear the similarities. Once it passes that test. I'm more than fine.

 

Wow, This thread has gotten some mileage.

Glad that NI did not opt for any of those Boogies in GR3.

The current amp lineup is pretty cool.