Announcing: Maschine+

Lmao I wish! Here's more info on it without derailing the thread any further: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehlers–Danlos_syndromes

I'm really glad you understand where I'm coming from with the customer feedback loop; I think it's important to give real-world feedback and not sugar-coat it, but in the same way, praise the things that are done well too to make sure the company knows what's good and what's not good enough for the people who are actually buying it. It's born out of a desire for the products to be as good as they can be, because better tools means success for the brand and success for the customer.

Very cool! Really talented builder too. If anybody else wants to check it out, it's here:

 

There are more that ask that question than you probably imagine

 

I don't get the dog whistle rant. I have never heard that term used in that way before. Are you disagreeing with me that John makes videos that contain a lot more musical merit and goes into more technical info about what it is that he sees in the products and does with them compared to Sarah2ill?

Look, we can go back and forth and argue this until hell freezes over. No one will win. But I will respond to your bait because this is total bullshit. Just because I don't dig what Sarah2ill does does not automatically make be a KKK white guy.

The way I see things is, she posts videos and makes them publicly available on YouTube in exchange for likes and personal gain. So, as a public personality and influencer .. this automatically means her personality, her looks, her image and her music are wide open to interpretation by anyone out there. It has nothing what so ever to do what who or what she is as a real person in her real everyday life. That is separate and distance from the image that is portrayed by the personality that exists on YouTube and Instagram. This interpretation is about the person that exists on YT and not the real person that she is day to day . There is no correct or incorrect way of interpreting it. It is just a interpretation and a view. You either agree, disagree or discard it.

I am a huge fan of R&B and Hip-Hip (in addition to many other genres of music). R&B has it's true greats and also has it's "meh!" mediocre artists. There are and were tons of truly great artists that IMO raised the quality and created a "gold standard" of what is R&B in modern times. They created a genre that is as good and ever better than Motown and Atlantic built up 40 or 50 years ago. People like Luther Vandross, Anita Baker, R Kelly, Raphael Saadiq and many many others -- et la.. What they and their production teams wrote, produced , released not only raised the quality level of the music genre but they also raised the image and portrayal of people of color in society and mass media. It became really cool and classy and well made music IMO. They proved you can't just be some talent-less shmo off the street and cut it in R&B because the entrance level is high as hell.

I am probably a better person to give feedback because I have nothing to prove and am an independent observer that likes and appreciates the music genres. I don't see much of the aspiration towards a "gold standard" in Sarah2ill's videos. I just see erosion and undermining of what all those people tried to create before her. It makes for light fluffy entertainment, but her videos sort of pander to the social media butterfly Instagram crowd -- "Hey, look at me and my cool life!". Its just a lot of strategically crafted click bait. If you actually watch them, the vidoes just lightly glance over the music and products -- and sort of makes the genre seem a bit like a joke. John Williams' videos are more detailed and much more grounded in musicianship. The videos are inspirational and entice the viewer to want to explore the R&B genre, the tools used to create the music and to try to understand what makes the music tick better. Just my own POV on it.

And no, Hip Hop or R&B isn't about "just making some beats"!. It also has to contain very strong lyrical content (much stronger that the dinky beats!) that contains a strong message about the people, their environment and gives insight to people who are outside looking in into realities, struggles and inequalities of other people that are accepted and taken for granted as a normal part of everyday life.

 

thanks for that info, how about a link for some logics template to use the pain

 

With all due respect, I think the modern mentality with algorithmic social media is that if you don't like it, don't watch it, the algorithm thus takes it into consideration. The cream will inevitably rise to the top with what is popular/valuable and what's not, ala Reddit. The interest in complex content is far less than the interest in casual content for hobbyists, that's an inevitability with any aspirational field.

You don't have to be a "KKK white guy" to be over-stepping the mark on what's arguably an industry forum though mate. These are your peers within the industry, fellow customers, like it or not, whether it's a hobby or a career for you, or them, these are the people along on the journey. Peers should be treated with respect or just not spoken about if you've got nothing positive to say.

Someone I work with is frequently asked in interviews for their opinions on someone they have had issues with on social media, but the stock response is "no comment" because to say anything else at this point just brings everybody down, as well as the industry itself when instead of focusing on the biz itself we're caught up comparing people within it. "Beef" is stupid. It's a big world, there's an audience for all kinds of content, evidently, not everybody has the need to make it more than something fun that they do as a hobby or a "wouldn't it be cool if?" kind of dream, and content with some levity is welcomed, especially right now. This is where sample packs and presets have a market, not everybody is a sound designer or wants to be, they just want to have fun with a particular aspect of something that interests them, and that's fair enough.

How many teens have guitars but never write an original song, never join a band, never upload a cover on YouTube, never tour, never release any music? I would say most guitars that have ever been sold are part of a journey that never leaves a bedroom or living room, realistically speaking. With a second lockdown just declared here, people are of course looking for ways to entertain themselves, and making some music with as little friction/pain as possible probably sounds good to a lot of casual demographics.

If a YouTuber only publishes mixing videos or mastering videos, and music is about more than just mixing and mastering, does that mean that their contribution is somehow less worthy than something else? Some people are producers, others are lyricists, some are emcees, a handful are competent engineers. It's a channel focused on beats with products that are used to make beats. If the channel belonged to an emcee, then I'm sure we'd be seeing very different content focusing on microphones that turn voices to MIDI, pre-amps, compressors, and pop-filters.

I've seen incredibly talented people publish terrible books, upload terrible videos, host terrible seminars, etc. Some people aren't meant to teach, some people are meant to do their job, whether that's technical or entertaining. But with all the missteps of people within this industry, we just gloss over it, they've still got a valued skill, despite trying to bring in an additional revenue stream, there's more content than you'll ever consume, whether that's music itself, tools, videos, books, all sorts, that's why it's best to focus on what's good and worth spending your time on. If something could be better and we see the potential for it, it gets shared. I might hammer NI with criticism, but it's only to elevate what they do to a higher place than it is because I believe it can be. Otherwise, we just move on to the next thing, enjoying what we enjoy, avoiding the things that we don't, but pissing on other peoples' parades isn't cool in this day and age, unless of course it's unethical or illegal, in which case, yes, absolutely piss on the parade if you think there's a positive outcome to be had that betters the world in some way.

At this point, it's undeniable that instrumental hip-hop is a thing in and of its own right, so gatekeeping about it needing lyrics is just silly. I've heard great beats ruined by amazing emcees because the beat didn't need anything else, it was a track in its own right. Does it apply to every beat? Nope, there are no absolutes in music. Plenty of great producers making instrumental hip-hop for video games and bringing in nice salaries for themselves. Lyrics wouldn't make sense for most scores outside of the titles and credits. Furthermore, instrumental "study music" and "music for sleep" is super popular with the kids, particularly within the "lo-fi" hip-hop scene.

Everything that came before Sarah2ill that you mentioned is pre-YouTube. This is the new generation, and whether you like it or not, this is how things are going these days. Do I expect to make clients out of bedroom producers? Not likely, and that's fine, they participate in the industry, but they aren't the industry, and that's frequently out of choice, because it's a fun thing they do and don't want to have spoiled by trying to monetize it. I respect them all the same.

If any of those artists mentioned were coming up in 2020, they would probably be doing similar content because it's a sustainable way of working.

 

It’s not a template, but I did a YouTube video a while back on how to setup Maschine and Logic in the channel-per-pad (16 channels) method, as well as how to use Logic 10.5’s new step sequencer to sequence Maschine. You can check it out here:



This is the way I usually handle my drums when I am making produced tracks. I have different setups for live performance, finger drumming, and sampling that are not covered in the video. Nonetheless, following the video tutorial should give you a good overview of how routing between Maschine and Logic works and you can adapt to your needs.

I’ve only done a couple YT videos to date, but it’s something I’m considering doing more of, so feedback is appreciated.

 

It's all in the eye / ear / whatever of the beholder. If it moves / excites / inspires you in any way then cool. Using anything whether it's pop groups, books, football teams, equipment as some kind of value currency against others isn't the most inspiring use of time IMHO.

 

After seeing my own video thumbnail embedded on this forum, I realized I was either very prophetic or very dumb in using a plus sign in place of an ampersand after “Maschine.”

 

A tip:

when u’ve successfully routed your 16 pads to individual channels, record a note on all pads so u see it works, and save as logic template for new projects.

And never ever ever ever load a complete drumkit, it will freak up your routing. Search for new sounds per individual pad/channel instead and mute the unused channels. Loading a complete kit changes the routing to mashine standard routing meaning you’ll have all sounds coming out on 1 channel again and the midirouting has been reset.

 

That’s only true if you have the “+routing” button enabled. As long as you turn that off, you can load full kits without it affecting your routing.

I probably should have mentioned that in the video!

 

w0rd. I’m a dj true to the arts, i can mix from anything to anything using any medium available, from vinyl to cds to x1s to s4s to timecoded to usb to whatever. At the behinning i was sour and bitter over digital djing and sync buttons and shithead dj’s not knowing that they were off beat even tho they had everything on their screen n shiet. It’s dangerous when dj’s use their eyes and not their ears as primary source of quality and skill. However, most important is what comes out of the pa, great dj’s are great bo matter what they use, and shitty dj’s cant be saved by syncbuttons and visual info like waveforms and beatgrids. It makes djing easier but doesnt make a great dj. Just as presets n stuff, it makes people make music and enjoy their time but it doesnt make great musicians and tecbicians and sound designers and sound engineers n stuff.

 

Shame the Wiki page doesn't convey just how utterly debilitating it can be, and how much comorbidity can occur with it. Whilst some people can have a more manageable form, some are in constant pain with multiple conditions occurring at the same time. You really wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy.

 

Such a shame they put Jam on the MIA list for Machine+ I get the possible reasons, but deserves a nonetheless.

 

I hate algorithms that pretend to know more about you than yourself. Algorithms are the reason why the internet is so biased and people don’t get confronted with facts that go against their points of view, and when they do, instead of simply brainstorm it they instantly feel offended. Hence, opinions don’t evolve and we are getting dumber
Algorithms are feeding the trolls like humans never did before ahahah

YouTube algorithm is so broken. Keeps me showing on the top videos that I already saw and videos that I don’t want to see

Only way to really find stuff that interests me is by clearing cache and cookies and sign off

Maybe I need to give a thumbs down on ”influencers” (aaaaallll of them lol - except for the GOAT Loopop) that I don’t appreciate watching so the algorithm understands my tastes? I don’t like doing that, never gave a thumbs down on YouTube because there is always an audience for each entertainer/teacher no matter what image or knowledge it transmits.

PS - I don’t even consider Loopop an influencer. For me he is an hybrid of a teacher and a sort of salesman that is not trying to sell you anything.

 

With all due respect. I see where you are coming from but I disagree with this. Once you post your stuff publicly out there for the world to see, you open yourself and your work up to opinions and criticism. If all you ever were ever allowed to get back was only the positive opinions and all negative opinions were automatically filtered out -- that's going to create a really weird skewed perspective of your work. How is this any different than a totalitarian government telling people only people that support us are allowed to be heard. Anyone who has issues or criticisms has to either shut the **** up and keep quite or else?

But back to music and art. Basically, in this great big "happy" environment of "positivity", you are then interpreting peoples work by the sheer number of positive likes they get. So, someone with 1 million positive likes must be somehow better than someone with 100 positive likes, right? You also neglect to take into account the fact that the person with 1 million likes probably has a **** load more dislikes and offends a lot more people than the person that has 100 likes -- but those dislikes and criticism are all being hidden and suppressed because, well, we don't want to offend anyone or put them down, right?

This entire idea to only showing positive views and suppress negative reactions sort of undermines the entire concept of what is art in the first place. (Can we assume at the very least that all these people that are on this big happy journey with us are in it to create "art" and care whether they are influencers in the music making world instead of influencing sneaker sales or foodies? ) I can even think of a number of very well known artists that had their careers and music boosted by the negative lash back response to them and their music when it was new and current.

You can't live your life wearing rose tinted glasses .. just saying.

 

There are influencers I like and others I think are just wack, I understand both sides, however, there's are a time and a place... If this was a 'what are your favorite YouTubers' thread constructive opinions flying around would be fine, positive or negative but this is a product announcement thread, it's not really the place. Please move on from this topic.

 

fair enough. i will shut up.

 

This!

Telecode101, Sarah has over 50 million streams on her music. She has her music featured in videos from Will Smith through Epidemic Sound. If it's not your thing, that is fine, you simply scroll on. No one is interested in having to read such rants

Dont let this nonsense come up again, because having to talk down on others to make yourself feel better...

 

Well,that's amazing. But to be honest, her stuff never showed up on any of the curated lists i get on Spotify.

We are discussing why negative reactions to an influencer need to be hidden and suppressed in order to make them feel better about themselves. if there is a sea of 50 million fans why does one negative reaction matter so much? Who cares? Why can't "you" "simply scroll on" and only read positive reactions?

 

I'm looking forward Sara2ill/ Sarah the Illstrumentalist M+ videos. Out of all the YouTube influencers with M+ she is the only one in my Spotify favs, those tracks on Spotify are something extra!