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Annulment of effects of CC MIDI Controllers of Kontakt-5 ?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by taoteching, Apr 18, 2018.

  1. taoteching

    taoteching New Member

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    I am a Sibelius user and I have discovered a very interesting effects of the CC MIDI controllers contained inside the channels of the interface of Kontakt-5, within Sibelius-7, both on cellos and bassoons in my composition, because they make them sound with: Much expression, dynamics and passion, but there are several compasses, where the cellos are not sounding in this way, even though these controllers which appear in a number of 13 in the 16 channel of Kontakt-5, are exactly the same in number and quality in those compasses where the cellos sound perfectly with energy, expression and passion, just like in those another compasses where the cellos sound very poor, without any dynamics, neither expression, nor passion at all, because these CC MIDI controllers contained within the channels of the 16 channel of the interface of Kontakt-5 set up by "Cellos ks", does not change at all, as you can imagine.
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    In order to try to solve this problem, I have realized many many proofs with the normal MIDI messages in Sibelius 7 just like:
    ~C122,127 in the cellos, and ~C122,0 ~C121, in the rest of instruments and voices (and even in compasses in blank), and besides this, I have also increased the CC MIDI controllers inside the channels of the interface of Kontakt-5, such as: "accent" in the case of the cellos, and "sustain", "legato", "sustain #1" and "legato #1" in the case of the bassoons, getting in this way an increase of about 50 % - 60 % in the level of volume of the sound both of the cellos and the bassoons, and about the 30 % - 50 % in the expression and passion, in those compasses where the cellos and bassoons sound weak and without energy.
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    Therefore, my question is : Does anyone know what could I do in order to achieve that the cellos and the bassoons, could sound with the 100 % of both volume, expression and passion in those compasses where they are not sounding in this way ?
    That is to say, in other words:
    Is it technically possible any kind of commands, or another solution to restore at the 100 % those effects in the cellos and bassoons of expression, dynamics and passion, which are produced by the CC MIDI controllers, contained within the channels of the interface of Kontakt-5 in those compasses where the cellos are not functioning in that way ?
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    I have already published this post in the Sibelius Forum, but no one has been able to give me any solution to this problem.
    I am working with Sibelius 7.1.3 with MAC OS X - 10.7.5, and also I will try to show both the captures of the configuration of the channels of the cellos and bassoons, within the interface of Kontakt-5, in its state of normal and powered configurations.
    I should add also that both the cellos and bassoons are using the Garritan Personal Orchestra for Sibelius Sounds Essentials libraries.
    Thank you very much for all your attention.
     
  2. taoteching

    taoteching New Member

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    After having published this post, I discovered a simple solution to my problem of annulment of effects of CC MIDI controllers contained within the interface of Kontakt-5. There may be another more professional solution, but this one works.

    Because I got a file where cellos sounded quite aloud and with expression and passion, but the bassoons sounded very weak and poor, I have been able to power this last sound in volume and in expression increasing the groups of the CC MIDI controllers inside the channel of bassoons within the interface of Kontakt-5, being composed this group by:

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    sustain legato legato#1 sustain#1

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    I increased this group from 1 up to 10 groups, using the function: "duplicate selected groups"

    and in this way I achieved a quite powered sound and expression and passion in bassoons.

    But I had to set the configuration of the bassoons in the Mixer, in this way:

    4 channels with Kontakt-5, and the another 4 channels with Sibelius Player, because in order to have a better control of the relative volumes of all the instruments, I have needed to create several registers of the same instrument. In the case of the bassoons, I had to create 8 bassoons. I don't know if in the case of one only instrument which is the most normal use, this solution could work or not. May be it were necessary to duplicate that instrument, and to set one instrument with Kontakt-5 and the other one with Sibelius Player.

    Have good luck.
     

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  3. taoteching

    taoteching New Member

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