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Anything besides Factory FX/sounds?

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by tristero, Jan 14, 2010.

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  1. tristero

    tristero Forum Member

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    I really like Maschine, but the I'm not very satisfied with the limited FX, sounds, synthesis options. Is there anyway to create/find better sounds? or get better FX? The reverb options alone are very very synthetic sounding and don't offer very much variety.

    Any tips?
     
  2. donfuan

    donfuan NI Product Owner

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    well, you can import anything, e.g. just load a waveform and use adsr, filter, delay etc, to emulate a synth. For more FX load Maschine in your daw and use whatever you like. Tons of possibilities!
     
  3. tristero

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    by synthesis, i mean waveforms + LFO, etc... not pre-rendered waveform sounds


    also, using a separate application for FX is not exactly what I was hoping for... I jsut notice that there is a group called "Factory" for FX. is there something other than Factory?
     
  4. donfuan

    donfuan NI Product Owner

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    well, Maschine is a rompler, not a synth.


    nope.
     
  5. THE WIDOWMAKER

    THE WIDOWMAKER NI Product Owner

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    can't please em all.

    You could chain your own FX if you feel you are up to the job!

    If you need more synthesis, LFO etc why not simply process maschine via something else with an input? Or not....

    Dya have Reaktor or other modular patches you could use?
     
  6. res308

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    Io Tristero, i understand where you getting at.
    But realise maschine is a sampler (but as said in a ni vid by josh: for now...)

    In the factory library choose sounds / instruments / waveforms.
    You can get some nice pseudo synthesis / unique sounds if you combine those with the multi fx. You can layer saw / sine etc.... in the mapping editor, wich makes for the same soundsculpting options like for example reaktor's junatik.

    Fwiw in the ni survey i proposed a ni maschine "crossgrade", maschine with synthesis options (subtractive for a start), combined with the sampling options.
    It would be great!
     
  7. jonespnice

    jonespnice NI Product Owner

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    I think what is included is good enough, I mean I know it doesn't have great synthesis options but it has enough that you can make so pretty good sounds. I think that the instrument sounds were just note programmed that well but with maschine's routing capabilities and spending some time tweaking I think you'd be amazed. For example if you start with a preset instrument (which gives you a filter, envelope, lfo, portomento options, amp envelope, modulation options via the sequencer/pad lane, 2 effects) and tweak that add effects (filter, reverb, whatever) and then pull up another sound and do the same thing. Now have them both assigned to respond to the same midi channel, now send the composite sound of both of those to another pad where you now have controls to shape that composite sound. Maschine is not a synthesizer but with a little ingenuity it can very well accomplish your goals.

    And to make a comment about the factory fx, I think they sound decent. If you look at most beat machines (hardware and software) you will see that it's atleast up to par. But like I stated previously the routing of maschine is so slick that you can very much have an extremely capable effects unit.

    I hope this helps. Peace.
     
  8. tristero

    tristero Forum Member

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    I guess i'm still looking for a good all in one solution, but the reality is that maschine is a great sampler, but i should use other apps for synthesis, fx, and arrangement

    oh well. i'll deal
     
  9. jonespnice

    jonespnice NI Product Owner

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    Yeah if you have soft synths then that is defintely the way to go but if for some reason if maschine is all you have then it's good to know that you have the ability to make a psuedo synth. It's very feasible ( with maschine's routing) to string together a 3 oscilator synth with 3 filters, 3 LFOs, 3 modulation envelopes, with various effects, 3 sound/pad automation lanes, and realtime CC message automation (with the 1.5 update). You could design sounds and routings and the save them as presets. You can use a combination of the regular instrument sounds (piano, brass, ect) and sounds that you make with your psuedo synth.
    But to get back to the original statement, I don't think a groove instrument like maschine, mpc5000, MV8800, or anything else will be able to compete with a real "standalone" soft synth.
     
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