Audio and Realtime Time-Stretching in Maschine

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Or maybe i am misunderstanding the subject here?

 

Time tone, lossless stretch, and direct access to the https://products.zplane.de/ company is not enough, and their SDK is open to the world, looking forward to NI cooperation with them!

 

Progress on this?

 

They seem to be STTTTRRREEETTCHING this one out !!

 

It pisses me off so much that I want to use a sampler, that mops the floor with my sampler, inside of my sampler that it mops the floor with

 

Its Out!!!!

 

If we could get real-time stretch and visible waveforms in the sampler it would be way more useful to me. This thing is cool but limited while adding more clunk. I really hoped for visible transients on the group level

Im gonna give some time to grow on me though. Real-time stretch yo!!!

 

yeah, that's what's missing.
Dev, please, add real-time stretch in the sampler

 

Yeah, the current implementation is useless for people who won't just play prepared loops from a library. The fact that you can't trigger pads with the audio modul is beyond ridiculous. It just doesn't make sense at all for a pad controller if you can't use the pads

 

I really haven't used the audio module either. This is not what I need in my workflow. Even 1 audio track would help me a lot (in collaborating with others and singers).

 

playing ready to use loops from a library ist absolute not the main "maschine"- way of working. thats a workflow for beginners and feels like working with "e-Jay" or "music-maker" 10 years ago

Maschine is a creative Instrument and I agree that the audio module is not very unsefull at the moment because ist absolute static in handling. There are no edit possibilities for start end points and CUTTING IN GRID (!) in the editor.
I find no cool way to record into the sampler and getting a perfect loop. At the moment its easier to play midi notes to trigger the recorded samples in the right place.
example: when I record in "sync" mode, whitch is the logical way for a synced sampling performance or vocal recording ... and the recording is a little bit too late (because of little latency, performance, ...) or you want to take only 2 bars of the middle of the sampling/recording you never get this in perfect sync. because the methods to slice (in sampler slicer) are limmited to 1/4 -> 1/32 notes. and this is useless for cutting in bar length loops. and the other way to "splitt" the performance is also limmited to 2, 4 8 16 splitts. so whats up when your audio recording is 5 bars ? or 10 bars and you want to use 4 bars from the middle. or at the end of your recording there is some space and the recording is not a fix bar lenght (this happens always whern you drag a pattern to a new group/soundslott for capturing a midi pattern). no way of getting it syned !
The only way at the moment is to record in sync and record fix bars of 4 or 8 or 16 length. so you can "splitt" this performance. but when you cancel recording a little bit befor the 16 bars are gone. no way of synced splitts.

 

I use the audio module in these ways-
1. Most cpu intensive plugins get bounced and put in the audio module
2. Random loops get used with audio module (I like perc loops) or just samples in general
3. 4 bar loops (70's soul)-Use loop mode for main sample and have in another group with same sample (with effects on it)
5. Samples-Main sample library I have my folders by genre like rock, 70's soul etc. I have these imported as loops. Just browse them via komplete kontrol or maschine and it loads in the audio module. No drag and drop this from the browser. Everything is via the controllers. I change to any tempo when loading these samples and the audio module has pretty much nailed it. If i want to chop it then I just switch from the audio module to the sampler. Takes less than 5 seconds.
Audio Module and maschine in general has allowed more creative possibility's when working with samples/loops. Not fun after a while just chopping something in 16 slices or 32 and just playing on pads. Gate mode has made it more fun imo.

 

ok,
I dont say that I don't like the audio module. I like it and when a loop is perfect in sync the audio module is a cool creative tool and makes lot of fun.
but building loops for the audio modul or recording something (instrument/vocals with a mic) and trying to get working audio loops out of these recorded phrases in the audio module is not working fine at the moment.

 

My only issue with the Audio module, is that there is no retrigger. Why this was not included right off the bat is beyond me. Until they fix this, I am using Ableton Simpler to retrigger pitched, or time stretched samples. Honestly, I would replace the gate for retrigger functionality in a heartbeat. Also, I would combine the audio, and sampler module. This way you get the best of both worlds. Retriggering, loop, and gate

 

Audio module would be more accurately describe as less than immediate and very limited audio looper. It's usefulness for time-stretching is limited, however, i do find the looping useful in analytically tightening midi notes to rhythm of the loop, having the transients visible on a loop is useful for that. Sure you can use your ears to pick out those off rhythm notes but this is another tool which is nice to have.

What I find really annoying with the audio module is the lack of usefulness live or on the fly, unless, perhaps you use NI loops. I am probably missing something here, but every time I switch a recorded rhythm from sample to audio the guessed BPM is always way off slowing or speeding up the beat. If you correct it its fine again, but then if you switch back to sampler to add a fade in or something then back to Audio the BPM of the sample are all screwed up again. It is a workflow killer. Is there a way to permanently set the BPM of a sample?

 

I had an idea yesterday of how time stretching could work and be really ground breaking. I did post this as a separate feature request:


"So you have various slices in a pattern, you know the time difference from one slice to the next, a mode where each slice is automatically stretched so it's length fills that gap would literally be a game changer. It would be like Ableton's warp markers, but being able to play in rhythms. I'm excited just thinking about it..."

 

Don't mean to hijack the thread.. but new to maschine... how do i signup for Beta

 

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If you understand about thread hijacking concepts, then surely you understand the concept of creating a new thread when it is a different topic?

 

wow... such a friendly / helpful response.. ouch... I stand corrected oh great one....

 

I think he means the search function is your friend. It could possibly lead you here : https://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/maschine-beta-test-apply-now.310846/