Audio to Midi

I know this was talked about once along time ago, and it was said it coulndt be done, but now I see there are a couple programs that are VST's that can do audio - midi "on the fly" with little delay.

I would love to see a way to play into GR and to midi out (with out a 13 pin do hickey on my guitar ).

An ideal set up would be to use something like the new standalone vst V-Box ( http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=6253 )
to run GR3, into Kontakt with my London Solo Strings, thus being able to play a synth live.

Any hope of this or do I have to look at alternatives like Widi VST
http://www.widisoft.com/english/widi-audio-to-midi-vst.html

Cheers!
MB

 

I still want pins. 13 of 'em

 

Yeah, there's a couple programs out there, but they aren't polyphonic to the best of my knowledge. And, you'd be adding that delay to the latency you already have on top of it all.

Your best bet is still a good hardware pitch/MIDI converter with a hex pickup, especially with amp modeling software. The tracking delay on the good ones is just about equal to the latency in a software amp rig with a good soundcard.

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Polyphony and delay wouldn't be an issue for me since I get near zero latency with my laptop/GR3 anyways, and as far as polyphony, it would be nice, but all im really looking to do is be able to trigger/play single note cello runs with my kontkt/london solo strings.

Even with a slight bit of delay it would be worth it. IMO

 

It is of course not perfect, but what you're looking for exists right now and can be had for about $40!

Lots of details in my blog, but the short answer is TS-Audio-to-MIDI. I'm using it right now! It's amazing, and the only down side is it's beginning to make my MIDI guitars look obsolete... See below:

http://www.decrementia.com/MeansBlog.htm#p030608

 

Amazing! Thanks a lot for updating me on this.

 

Sounds like the intelliscore ensemble edition would be great for making some backing tracks, says it can convert a music track into multiple midi tracks seperated by instrument. What a great idea! Seemingly small company though, they should get a larger company *Ahem! Ahem!* to adobt them and really take this concept to the next level.

 

there is also http://www.widisoft.com/

 

Fill, no problem. As I said, not perfect, but I'm finding it very useful for things like string pads behind guitar tones, etc.

Last caress, I think it's a really important observation that these companies are still so small and obscure, as I touch on in my blog thing:

"(Amazing that the developers of this techology don't even have modern websites. Leading to an entirely different discussion about the perils of virtual development vs. the profitability of hardware development, and the frequent ignorance of best solutions as a result. But I digress.)"

What it boils down to is that the best solutions for *us* are often not the most profitable solutions for vendors.

 

All of this PC+guitar business is still in its fetal stages. I can't imagine any use I could have had for Intelliscore back in 1999 when the company started. Wave to MIDI conversion software may have been practical for other reasons but not so much for the working guitarist.
Now that I use a computer based guitar rig however a quality soft like these negates any need for a hardware guitar synth. I can't wait to get WIDI working in Sonar so I can trigger the Moog parts in "Tom Sawyer" while I play the guitar lines =).
On a side note, WIDI's site doesn't look quite as archaic as some of the others.

 

"On a side note, WIDI's site doesn't look quite as archaic as some of the others."

True. I already bought a licensed copy of TS-Audio-to-MIDI (because it worked, huzzah!) but will definitely check back on WIDI to see if they have any demos, and whether any of it works well in real-time. (The Intelliscore stuff looks better for multi-track analysis, but didn't work so well in real-time. The TS is dead simple and very fast!)

 

They've got a 20 day free trial. the audio to midi soft is a VST plugin, I just can't get it to work. I'm not very good with MIDI, The most I've ever used it for is to program and edit drums. It only lets me send MIDI data to the MIDI out of a device not already in use ( thus excluding my RK3) and I don't know how to route the signal to my software synth.

 

VST? That's cool! The TS is a standalone app. you leave running in the background. A VST cleans things up a bit... if it works of course.

Most of these apps/plugins require that a virtual MIDI port (for isntance, MIDI Yoke) be installed to route output to the host. Do the WIDI help files mention anything to this effect?

 

Not that I read. The help file actually has a complete walkthrough for Sonar 4 (what I'm using) but it seems to me that it refers only to sending the MIDI to an offboard hardware synth.

 

Download/installed MIDI yoke and it works now, Thanks Darc!
Noticeable latency but it tracks fairly well. Comparable to the pitch shifters in GR. I was running it to Sample Moog and came up with some cool stuff. I can't help but feel like if a deep pocketed company wanted too they could develop this software into something truly impressive. I'm not a 13 pin guy so I can't tell you how it compares ot the hardware stuff but I like it pretty well.

 

Cant get widi to work, gave up on it.

DNA looks very promising! Love the concept (I'm sure we've all wanted to be able to do this)!

 

Howdy.
Big time newbe to all the fun we seem to be having.Still researching vst and midi stuff.trying to get the chain of events in order.Not being a guitar player,I've been goofing with my keyboard midi out.I'm trying to use realstrat with guitar rig.trying to get that cool guitar rig sound while playing midi key board....Wrong tree?...Sorry If I missed a thread regarding this.I looked and this thread looked as close as it gets. Sorry for bugging you if this is a dumb question. I,m also using sonar to record.

 

If you can get 'realstrat' or whatever virtual guitar you have to work within Sonar or any other sequencer first, there should be no problem at all attaching GuitarRig next/later in the chain, on the same track of course.

 

Realstrat is a guitar simulator software.It works thru midi but I'm not sure how to get guitar rig to effect the realstrat midi out put in real time

 

If you can open Realstrat as a synth in a program like Sonar then you should be able to add VST effects to the synth tracks (at least this is my experience with programs like EZdrummer)