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In Sticky Bars & Beats Grid For Sample Editing

Discussion in 'Feature Suggestions' started by crystaldrone, Jan 1, 2016.

  1. crystaldrone

    crystaldrone NI Product Owner

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    the record tab in the sample editor have bars & beats as grid on the timeline, where its not even needed. And the edit and slice tabs have the grid only and only in seconds. so cant truncate my sample to a beat. one has to guess how many secs will make how many beats so that the attack doesn't get cut off or something. you have got to be the dumbest people on the planet NI!! my worst mistake in life buying your crap.
     
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  2. dasoli

    dasoli NI Product Owner

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    +1
    BPM / 60 = BP Sec.
    120/60 = 2
    2 beat per second. / 2
    1 Beat per 0.5 seconds * 4
    a bar (4beats) corresponds to 2 seconds
    not guess but rather mathematics.
    really funny is that, with 93.46 BPM ... or other "crooked" BPM information.
    However otherwise I think you're right. a simple bars / beats grid would help.
     
  3. Jamzdabrainz

    Jamzdabrainz New Member

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    When slicing samples we should have the tempo and bar length option so it gets sliced in the right tempo / bars and then we can select the section or sections that are to be applied to which pad
     
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  4. crystaldrone

    crystaldrone NI Product Owner

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    yes you are right dasoli. but such decimal values will still not give you accurate musical values in beats. It will only be accurate for 60 and 120 bpm.
     
  5. dasoli

    dasoli NI Product Owner

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    !myself would prefer a simple grid!
    ok, even the other way around
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    You also can just divide 60 seconds / bpm.
    one beat = X seconds.
    93.46 bpm: 60 / 93.46 =1 beat 0.641985876310 seconds.
    multiplied by 4 =1 Bar 2.567943505242 seconds.
    I was now even pedantic exactly.
    Guess is not necessary
    ;)which is of course much better numeracy everything, if you try eighths or sixteenths to sample.:eek:
    So again +1 for your suggestion.
     
  6. Reto E.

    Reto E. NI Product Owner

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    +1
    A bars and beats grid in the sample editor would be very useful. I hate doing maths while making music !!!
     
  7. FrankieFilth

    FrankieFilth NI Product Owner

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    +1 I would definitely appreciate this!
     
  8. willis_jm

    willis_jm New Member

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    Not sure how this is not a feature at this point. I've been recording a long time but am just getting into sampling and electronic music and this seems essential to creating musical loops from samples.
     
  9. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    I have wanted this for a long time too.
     
  10. Mk3User-Neurotic

    Mk3User-Neurotic New Member

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  11. fozziemusic

    fozziemusic New Member

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    +1 from me too. Implementation I would like is to make the timeline user-switchable from bars/beats to min/seconds like can be done in DAWs and other editors.
     
  12. CeeMusic

    CeeMusic NI Product Owner

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    I would also find it very useful.
     
  13. skhm

    skhm NI Product Owner

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    How is this useful? Im trying to see its usefulness.
    As i see it:
    This is only useful if the marker also snaps to beats/8th/16th, right? And the beginning of your transients should also be right on the spot, correct (like super quantised)?
     
  14. CeeMusic

    CeeMusic NI Product Owner

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    It's useful for sampling. It can be a help when trying to loop something.

    That's how I would use it.
     
  15. GoKeez

    GoKeez NI Product Owner

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    Just got an Mk3. Chopping a sample and am pulling my hair out trying to change the timeline to bars instead of seconds. Finding that the request has been here for over 4 years and not updated is not at all encouraging.

    Someone please tell me I’m misunderstanding something very simple about this thread or (missing?) function.
     
  16. D-One

    D-One Moderator Moderator

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    Right-clicking the Bar number in the top bar changes it between beat divisions and seconds, but it does not affect the sampler, only the arranger. The best you can do to have a grid in the sampler is to use Split Mode and then just remove Slice points you don't need.
     
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  17. GoKeez

    GoKeez NI Product Owner

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    Thanks for your attention to this. I’m away from the lab but I’ll give that a go.