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Best Suggestions on using Maschine with Logic 9?

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by smoovemode, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. leslieg02

    leslieg02 Member

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    I would ultimately like to record each drum element separately on its own track but the aux channels have no record option. Is there a way to do this on separate tracks as external midi via the aux tracks? If not how would I route the drum sounds inside maschine to set it up on the external midi tracks?

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    Thanks again for all of your help.
    Leslie
     
  2. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    you will need to create extra MIDI Channels in Logic - for instance the Maschine Channel 1 drums. at least that is what i think you need to do - i don't use this method.

    to be hoest, recording drums is so much easier in Maschine, i don't understand why you don't want to do that?

    sowari
     
  3. mezzurias

    mezzurias NI Product Owner

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    The best way to do this is imo is to drag and drop the midi into Logic and split by note pitch. That will create a track for every pitch. If you used the midi batch setup and have the drums going to note pitch that will split your kicks to one track, your snare to another, etc. I wouldn't bother with all the external midi tracks over whatever, or even the multi-outs. Once you split by note pitch to different tracks. You can bounce in place all the tracks and they will have their own audio file. It's the way I used to do it in Logic 9. Just easier that way, imo.
     
  4. leslieg02

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    I used to program solely in Maschine but began to see I was limited on what I could do arrangement wise (automation/fx). I want to use Logic to create a one-stop shop workflow and to be able to do everything in one place (songwriting, editing, recording), plus it makes bouncing out stems easier. I found out how to do it here if you're interested - F Major did a vid for tracking out beats from Midi into Logic Pro.
     
  5. leslieg02

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    Thanks-I saw the vid F Major did before reading your reply and he said the same thing about splitting notes by pitch. I don't like drag/drop b/c if I want to edit a performance I have to do it again in Maschine and then drag/drop again. I've even had issues with routing changes (w/out me changing anything), so I prefer to just record live.
     
  6. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    if you want to do everything in Logic maybe doubling/tripling the External Instruments that are sending MIDI to Maschine is way to go? I am talking about having a lumber of of what i have labelled 'Masch Channel 1 Drums'.

    to be honest, i have never worked with this method so i have no idea whether you can use a number of 'External MIDI Channels all sending to one instance of a plugin.

    sowari
     
  7. mezzurias

    mezzurias NI Product Owner

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    You can, though again in Logic 9 this is a non-issue. Just copy the track (by holding alt and dragging) and in the inspector assign the midi channel to whatever channel you have assigned in Maschine. You don't have to bother with external midi channels or whatever. In Logic X they changed channel behavior a bit where copying a channel now creates another instance of the plugin. The old behavior is still there just more hidden than it was before.

    Anyway to record the auxes you have to create audio tracks and output the auxes as inputs to the audio tracks. You can then record to those tracks.
     
  8. leslieg02

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    I know Maschine will only allow 16 ext chs inside Logic. I tried to take the drum sounds and route them separately to some of the open ext ch's in Logic and it didn't work. That's what led me to F Major's vid, though I had to record the drums on the external ch the drum group was assigned before I split. After that I was able to record the drum sounds on separate tracks. If I find a way to route each indiv. sound to external midi w/out the split I'll post it.
     
  9. mezzurias

    mezzurias NI Product Owner

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    You mean route the mid out from Maschine to the DAW? Not possible in Logic 9 as far as I know since AUs in Logic don;t support midi-out.

    I'm kind of trying to understand why you are trying to do.
     
  10. leslieg02

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    Hey Sowari,

    For some reason I'm having trouble hearing my piano sound when I go to midi mode. Using your template, I attempted to create a new project loading new sounds inside maschine and routing them to the ext channels and I can hear everything BUT my piano sound (even though I routed its channel via Sound>Input>MIDI to the appropriate channel/Active ON. I can hear my drums on Pad Page C and every other loaded sound in its proper octave but I cannot hear my Piano sound at all no matter what page I go on.

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  11. leslieg02

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    Nevermind- Didn't know I had to do it for the VSTs inside Maschine as well-I routed to the channel inside Scarbee.
     
  12. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    good to know :thumbsup:

    sowari
     
  13. leslieg02

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    (Note: I'm still in Midi Mode and I'm speaking about the external tracks) For some strange reason, with any piano sound I choose (Scarbee/Massive etc) any notes lower than E2 either don't play or make blip noises. I can play C3 on my Mikro and C1 on my keyboard. Anything btw C1-E2 can't be heard. I've tried changing velocities, transposing, changing the octave inside the plugin with no avail. I've read about this happening with the piano sounds with some of the plugins on here. Is this normal and can it be fixed?
     
  14. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    open the Controller Editor App.

    Make sure it is focused on your Maschine Micro - and in the Edit drop down choose 'New'. you can rename it if you like.

    do you still get the issues after creating a 'New' Template?

    sowari
     
  15. leslieg02

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    I did as you said and unfortunately I still have the same issue.
    Note: I called my new template "New Logic Pro Template"

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  16. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    hmm, okay i will have a look but i won't have time until Friday to do so.

    what about my Logic project, did that work?

    sowari
     
  17. leslieg02

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    The piano sound from the Mark II in your project plays fine-I can play all notes on Mikro and my keyboard. I don't know what it is since I used your same template. Maybe its with Konkakt 5 (housing Scarbee) inside Maschine? Thanks. I appreciate all of your help.
     
  18. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    i will definitely check.

    perhaps you need to change the MIDI Channel in Kontakt - where Scarbee is - to match the MIDI Channel in Logic and Maschine?

    sowari
     
  19. leslieg02

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    Is this what you mean (below is the only area I found I could assign/change channels)? I changed the channel in Port A (from host) to 2 to match the ex ch 2 in Logic. I've even tried it on a diff ex channel altogether-same issue. And I have the Kontakt player, not Kontakt 5-not sure if that makes a difference.

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  20. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    that is what i meant - and it did not make a difference?

    sowari