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Best workarounds to emulate thru analog

Discussion in 'ABSYNTH' started by djeric, Jun 23, 2010.

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  1. djeric

    djeric Forum Member

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    Best workarounds to emulate TRUE analog,sorry for the mistake...some said t pass the vsti sound thru some analog gear, filter,preamps, that's why thru was in my mind.

    Hi guys how can we get the best analog sound using NI stuff synths and effetcs, amps, etc...

    Based on this sentence took from another forum:
    What soft synths are missing from analog synths?

    "What's missing is the "depth" of a Voltage Controlled Oscillator, where the pitch is drifting through indefinite frequency resolution. There are no stairs, like on digital system where the signal will go +0.001, 0.002, 0.003 Hz etc. Not too important when you have one VCO, but when you got two detuned, even a Captain Obvious could figure out the difference.

    Second point is the analog signal path (obviously VCF) and then the VCA where signal gets saturated due to gain and nonlinear properties of semiconductor elements. (think of this as a mild distortion that generates additional harmonics - fat sound)"

    How can we emulate that in Absynth, I know pitch to lfo but how much on trans and on the sec(lfo)?
    Do we use same parameters for all the oscilators using just 1 lfo?
    Good NI amps to help get the analog sound?
    What would be the best technics to achieve the analog sound using Absynth,in case it's not the best option what about massive and/or FM8.

    You can use anything from NI to get that analog synth sound, but please explain here how did you do, chain, parameters, everything.

    Thanks.
     
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  2. sampleconstruct

    sampleconstruct NI Product Owner

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    If you want true analog use true analog.
     
  3. geoelectro

    geoelectro NI Product Owner

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    I believe there is too much romanticizing about analog. I was there. I remember having to dial in every sound manually. Having to retune every time the wind changed direction. Programming a sound that sounded different every time it was recalled because of component drift. How every thing was MONO! How frequently they broke down and how freakin' expensive they were. Like all human memory, we tend to only remember the good stuff and easily forget the bad.

    The sounds I can get now in software blow away that old stuff. The stereo fields are deep and intoxicating. The repeatability of sound is perfect. Every new version of a softsynth or new release of a sound is better and better. The variety I now have is overwhelming!

    I've owned Arp Oddessey's, 2600's, Little Brother, String Ensemble. MiniMoog's, Oberheim OBX, OB-8, Sequential Circuits Prophet 10 (rare) Early Crumar, Yamaha etc.

    I do not want to go back to that equipment. It was great in it's day when that was all there was. Now, we have very powerful tools that replicate practically any older product with reliability and repeatability.

    BTW, check out the OP-X. Those guys spent a great deal of time making it "like" an analog where each voice is a separate synth with it's own tuning drifts etc.
     
  4. ew

    ew Moderator Moderator

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    This. My old ARP 2600 had pieces of masking tape with pencil marks next to all the sliders, so I could come somewhat close to reproducing the sound. I'd bring feeler gauges with me; if I put the feeler gauge on the pencil mark and moved the slider to where it would hit the feeler gauge, I was in the ballpark. Sometimes, it worked. The other times, not so much.
    This as well.
    In my case, it's an Oddysey, a 2600, Oberheim Two and Four Voices, an OBX, Sequential Pro-One and Prophet-5, a CS60, etc. I still own and use a Matrix-6 (which doesn't really count, as it's a hybrid analog/digital), and I still use the Pro-One occasionally; I sold mine twenty years ago to a drummer I played with, and I still borrow it from time to time.

    ew
     
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