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Discussion in 'ABSYNTH' started by agntdfb, Sep 2, 2003.

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  1. agntdfb

    agntdfb New Member

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    Absynth is amazing, thats to be sure. But is it just my system that seems to have many bugs? (high spec PC with DMX Fire).

    Like, when you try to edit a patch inside cubase. If absynth isn't open, it opens it up so you can edit it - good... but then it decides to set the selected instrument to the 0th bank, and if you've made any changes to the one it was previously on (the one you want to edit), you've lost them!

    And whats with the window refresh problems?
    Your in stand alone absynth. You select a patch. You open, for example, the LFO window. THEN you close the window. Select another patch, and re-open the LFO window. It SHOULD have refreshed itself to show the LFO's active for the present patch, but for some reason it seems to still display the LFO's for the previous patch. Surely its a simple bit of coding that tells Absynth to call 'RefreshWindows()' or something whenever a patch is changed. This became infuriating when i was trying to pick-apart how pre-made patches were constructed, spending ages wondering how the patch was creating a certain effect without ANY LFO's active. Only to realise the LFO window was erroneously showing the LFO's to some other patch I had previously been viewing which had none active!

    Long post I know (sorry:p), but does anyone else have these problems, or am I just crap?
     
  2. Jake Mandell

    Jake Mandell Forum Member

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    Both of these bugs are known and will be addressed soon.

    But please let us know if you find anything else!

    Thanks,

    Jake
     
  3. octolic

    octolic NI Product Owner

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    Maybe the same breed of bugs : on one of the new patch, I wanted to see an existing envelope hidden and ... different name of envelope in the window !!!!!!!
    One envelope of the waveshaper if I remember but the patch ...

    Also fix the incomplete display of the frequency for the frequency envelopes !

    Not bug but PLEASE : each time I open Absy, it's not full sized to my screen : click ; the windows are a mess : click, click, click ... mouse drags ( shhhh ... shhh )

    When I open the envelopes window at large and switch to an another and come back : small again !!! grrrrrrrr !

    BUG : when full size on the time scale, very hard to come to " normal "

    I'd like to sort envelopes : levels, pitch ...

    effect window in patch : edit ! the name would be more useful ...

    The floating toolbar : redundant !! already in main ( except record )...

    etc

    etc

    etc

    I tweak a lot and Absynth is a real pain ! workflow damnit !!

    I waste at least 80 % of my time on unecessary clicks and scrolls and that's why I may seem deeply pissed ! ;-)

    I want the next update to be FUNCTIONNAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sorry about the OT but this is as annoying as bugs ...

    Next target : VOKATOR
     
  4. Bingo142

    Bingo142 Forum Member

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    Saving window positions a must

    I agree, clicking every time one opens Absy is too stressfull for one's index finger.
    How about saving window positions so when one opens Absy, all the windows are where one left them :) (it shouldn't be hard, there's: Left, Top, Heigth and Width dimensions to save and maybe the window name:)
     
  5. jendakub

    jendakub New Member

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    - all windows are resizable, and can be maximalize, in absynth 1 maximalize buttons was disable in all window except envelopes.

    - envelopes window - hard to resize, missing resize cursor

    - No way to close navigator and meter window by buttons on panel, must to do it manually from menu

    - no options from record window

    - about box display only ?.??.??? no info about version

    - !!! if you want to close absynth application with standart windows close button, no prompt to save changes, all changes are lost !!! file/exit works good with prompt for saving.

    - if is "one window at a time" activated, the windows do not correspod to patch.

    - when stereo is activated in patch window, the master filter velocity in velocity patch is panned to right. If value is set near 100% for masterfilter velocity, output is panned to right

    - save channel to library works and file is created in disk, but the saved file does not appear in list so can not be used.

    - when you activate a sync button in envelopes the only the rettriger envelopes are saved with sync status.

    - when you save an effect to library, the beat status is not saved, so you must then manually change from second mode to beat mode.

    - create a new envelope, module parameter can be used more times, you can have for example 10 envelopes for oscil1 master pitch parameter.
     
  6. Jake Mandell

    Jake Mandell Forum Member

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    These types of detailed lists are really great. The more specific you are, the faster we can fix the bugs : )

    Please be sure to post what platform/host you're using as well.

    keep 'em coming...

    Best,

    jake
     
  7. jendakub

    jendakub New Member

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    I forgot to write witch platform I use - Windows XP, Host Cubase SX, VSL2020, AMD CPU.....

    I will try to be more specific with bugs witch are important for me.
    Please if anybody has this problems too, let me know to be sure that it is not only my PC machine configuration problem.

    1.exiting absynth 2.01 standalone application

    When you are working on new absynth presets, you use store button to store changes you made. When you want to exit application you have two options. First using menu /File/exit/ or second using X button
    of windows standart application buttons. When you exit absynth via File/exit/ menu, you get a prompt to save your work for preset and then for a whole bank. But if you want to exit absynth and you use
    standard close X button of application, all work is immediately lost. No prompt for saving changes. I write this becouse I never use menu for exiting application and I think many people too. In Absynth 1
    it works correctly, so if it is not only my absynth/PC configuration problem, work out this.


    2. Problem with master filter/stereo/ and pan position.

    First open absynth. Make new bank. Open patch window. Activate stereo for channels.Activate master filter. Play some notes on absynth keyboard with your mouse. Open midi window. Go to velocity panel. Set master filter velocity response to 99%. Play some notes on absynth keyboard with your mouse. As you can hear the position of the sine sound is panned to the right. IS this a Bug?

    3. Saving channel to library

    I installed the absynth 2 two times and still I was not able to use my saved channels. Today I solved this problem. When I instal the absynth2 the absynth instal library presets. In channel folder absynth instal buggy preset leadership Saw witch had 0 kb. The same in waveshape folder with preset little boost. In my patch window channel menu presets ended with the leadership saw preset although
    in folder were more presets saved. So Absynth read the library from folders alphabetically and stop to read when preset with 0kb is founded. So this problem is now solved for me.

    4. Saving effect to library

    Make some effect, change the effect mode from sec to beat, and change the value of the beat to new one, for example - /Beat/ /4.00000/. Save this effect to library as test01. Change preset or make new
    bank, and recall this test01 effect preset on patch window from effect library. Open effect window and look at this. The effect is saved correctly, but the value for /beat/ /4.00000/ are not saved.
    Instead of this there is /sec/ /1.00000/ or something similar. SO when you want to save some multitap delay beat synced effect, it is not possible now.

    5. saving sync envelopes.

    When you want to save some envelopes in sync mode, no problem just make you want and press store button. You can edit another preset and if you return to preset with saved sync envelopes there is no
    problem. But if you done all work and want to save the whole bank, absynth does not save envelopes in sync mode except retrigger. Retrigger envelopes are saved with bank in sync mode. When you close the bank and open another and then the first bank with sync envelopes, you will see that envelopes are not synced. So it seems like absynth save sync envelopes only virtually for editing presets, but does not save for bank.

    This are the bigger problems with absynth for me, does anybody has the same?????
     
  8. octolic

    octolic NI Product Owner

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    I really think NI and all developers should have a dedicated area for bugs and requests ... registered of course !
    And shotgun for warez ...

    You log : you have the list, if it's on the list, no need to whine coz it's known ; if not : fill a form giving all relevant info useful to devs ...

    Same for requests + vote so active development to meet the need of the users : democracy for features ;-)

    If lotsa bugs, maybe some clever way to sort to spot if your problem(s) is on record.

    NI could save valuable human resources doing this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    How much time NI employees waste time answering " known problems " ?

    Also up to date FAQs !!!!!!!!!!!

    I hate wasting my time, what about NI ? ;-)
     
  9. octolic

    octolic NI Product Owner

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    Oooops !
    Win XP + SP1 + standalone for the bugs I noticed ...
    One more unnecessary post ! ;-)
     
  10. agntdfb

    agntdfb New Member

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    woh!

    jeez, looks like i hit a nerve there...

    I'll be sure to post new bugs as i find them.

    Here's a suggestion for the envelope editing window while I'm here though - How about using the standards for point selection in various packages (fireworks, word etc)? Click on a single point, hold down shift and click on successive points to multiselect, then you can move specific multiple points. And how about click drag ability? Hold down the mouse and drag a transparent square over multiple points for a similar result. Not sure how you've coded it, but this may be tricky with your "lock/slide" toggle ie. how it should behave when moving multiple points depending on the "lock/slide" mode.

    Oh yeah: BUG - the "loop" setting for the envelopes seems to behave unusually sometimes. If you want to move the position of the beginning of the loop(the "C"), especially to move it to an earlier point. When you click it and drag it back, it will suddenly decide to think that you're moving the "T", and move THAT to the point, leaving the "C" where it was! Perhaps it would be more intuitive if the "C" moved to the points your dragging to DURING holding the mouse button, so you can visually see it move from one point to another. THEN you let go of the mouse when the "C" is over the point you want to leave it on.
     
  11. jg_music

    jg_music NI Product Owner

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    I agree with benhure@noos.fr that NI should have web pages, for each NI product, that list (a) known or suspected bugs, and (b) requested new features (a wishlist). I agree that these lists should be accessible by registered users only.

    NI, what do you think?
     
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