Bulk import of sounds from Kontakt

I am wanting to Import my sounds in Kontakt 4 (I am using the free player version for now, soon to be upgraded) from VI.ONE and EXS24 as Kore Sounds Without having to manually save a couple thousand .KSDs. I know that this has probably been covered before, so I apologize for any repetition. After researching, I think I understand that Kore cannot change presets in Kontakt, and therefore cannot use the "Import Plug-in Presets" feature. Does anybody have any advice on this matter, or should I just give up and browse all my sampled sounds in the Kontakt 4 browser.

Would it be possible for Kontakt to be upgraded with a feature to export sound banks as Kore sounds for a workaround for anybody using non NI libraries in Kontakt and wanting to import them to Kore?

 

I think you are a bit confused. Kontakt files are not Kore sound files (.ksd). They are .nki files that contain info about the instrument like it's parmaeter settings, zones, groups, modifiers and pointers to the samples in your library. So to create the ksd files, you will only have to pull the .nki inst onto a slot in Kore (and perhaps other processors if desired) and save it as a Kore sound. You do not need to save any of the samples themselves. Still, if you have a lot of .nki files say, for 50 presets from EXS and VI, then yeah, that will be a bit of a task. So that would be a nice feature if Kore could create a ksd from all the nki and nkm on your system.

 

Thanks for your reply tlennon. I understand that .nki files are not the same as .ksd, and that kore does not import the samples from the kontakt sound, sorry if I was a bit confusing. Also I am talking about alot more than 50 sounds, I'm talking thousands, so manually saving them individually would be a waste of alot of time since I can already browse them in kontakt.

 

I don't understand why you need them as Kore sounds. Just load Kontakt into a Kore sound edit channel and load the nki file in Kontakt. The sounds you use most can be saved as ksd on demand. But you're right that it would be a lot of work to do as many as you have.

 

You're right, it's not a matter of need, but want. I don't need Kore for that matter, but I want to be able to browse multiple sample libraries and soft synths in one place, which is one purpose of the product. It's just a matter of easier workflow and less time wasted clicking from plugin window to plugin window. Does anybody have any advice on how to get this done, or is the simple answer that I have to use the Kontakt browser to browse my sampled sounds, or waste hours of time saving thousands of individual Kore Sounds?

 

This has been requested many times over the years. An .nki to ksd converter or a way for Kore database to link to the the Kontakt quickload database.

Right now there is no solution other than what you have mentioned.

There should be KSD's made for the K4 presets coming after the 2.1.1 release but that does no good for custom or 3rd party patches.

 

The big problem with Kontakt is that automation's on a per-patch basis. When you do bulk import, it uses the same automation scheme for all.

ew

 

...which would work fine for quite a lot of libraries (when the lib uses an unified performance view for all patches).
This is exactly, what I would like to see in Kontakt for those kind of libs at least.
Load the first patch, assign Automation_IDs to the knobs and Faders, afterwards
import a whole folder of Kontakt presets into Kore, with every instrument using the same Automation Map (similar to the way as one does with plugins and kore 'templates' for batch import).
That's, how I would imagine it.
Of course, for more specialized instruments, one still would have to save those one-by-one.
And saving/loading of an Automation map - like in Battery - wouldn't be bad also.

 

Thanks for the info b-righteous and ew. I guess once I get the full Kontakt 4 and the update comes out at least I'll have those sounds in the Kore browser. Even if I could get them imported without anything being automatable I would be allright, because there's really not anything to control on let's say a sampled string sound with no effects coming from kontakt. Personally I would be willing to edit the automation data as necessary if I could just get all of my sounds as a starting point in kore. Oh well, I guess this just takes Kore 2 down from a 9.9 to a 9.8 for me.

 

well if you do get them into the kore 2 browser let me know please.
because i bought the kore 2 software and i own komplete 6. and i did not get and can not get kontkt4 ksd only nki and no one on this forum can explain. the "stock" answer seems to be to uncheck the hide preset button in the options dialog .
again please let me know where you obtained kontakt 4 ksd .thanks.

 

thanks for the reply

 

I'm personally really surprised by this. I thought what KORE was built for was so you could find any instrument in any of your various synth/sampler applications (especially the native instruments ones) from one central place. ? it's just too odd that if i want to find one instrument, i supposedly have to look in KORE, REAKTOR, and KONTAKT in order to find it, because KORE won't mention what KONTAKT or REAKTOR have inside them.

VOM, you say the stock answer is to uncheck the hide preset button in the options dialog.. How do you load an NKI once it's now displayed? I tried double clicking on a previously filtered instrument last night, and it did load kontakt if I remember correctly, but it wasn't outputting any audio for some reason and i instantly assumed it was because NKI files just weren't meant to be double clicked on in KORE...?

Another thing I find very odd about KORE is that i assumed that when i installed it, it would automatically import all of my KONTAKT and REAKTOR instruments into it automatically, but in reality, you actually have to tell it to import the KONTAKT plugin before it can then find KONTAKT's instruments.. I wonder why that is?

 

You don't load .nkis from Kore's browser, you load .ksds.

And, for Reaktor, download the Reaktor 5 .ksds for Kore from the update manager here on the site:
http://www.native-instruments.com/?id=updates
In Kontakt's case, download the 1.0.2 library update. After running the installers, the .ksds for those factory libraries will appear.

ew

 

that's what i personally thought, was that NKIs are completely unimportant to KORE.. I'm curious why he's mentioning we should turn off the filter then, if there's no point in seeing the NKI files in that browser?

Also, for KONTAKT, i'm actually more interested in getting my own personal instruments into KORE and not the factory presets, and so I assumed the 1.02 update wasn't important for this case. What I'm looking for is a way to batch convert all my NKIs to KSDs or something similar to that. To me it seems odd that apparently KORE can't load KONTAKT's instruments natively and that there's no fast way to convert KONTAKT's custom built instruments into ones that can be read by KORE.

Btw, my 4.1 KONTAKT factory library already says it's version 1.02 so i thought the factory presets would be appearing in KORE, but i don't think they are. (but at the same time, if i open up the system manager or whatever it's called, it does mention that there's a 1.02 factory library update to be downloaded, so i assume that's why the KSDs don't exist is because i already have 1.02, but not the "real" 1.02 or something odd like that....

 

The "hide unavailable sounds" box is there to hide anything that isn't accessible by just Kore and its internal engines. It's a eird decision on their part, but I'm used to it by now.

There was a batch import of Kore sounds option for a while in a pre- 4.1 Kontakt beta. However, it was left out when they realized the plugin and internal engine are out of sync as far as versions go. I'm hopeful it'll return with the next batch of updates.

Do a full scan from the options/database page and reboot when it's done. They should show up after that.

ew

 

I kinda got the opposite problem. I just installed Komplete 6 and now the kore database is filled with triple and quadruple entries imported from the other presete libs like kontakt and absynth. Any ideas on how to clean up the Kore database?

 

Sure. Do a full scan from options/database and reboot your system when done.

ew

 

hmm no I 've already tried that. Any other suggestions?