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Can I midi trigger play button, groovy browser in Abbey road trip?

Discussion in 'KONTAKT' started by crsmarker, Jan 20, 2015.

  1. crsmarker

    crsmarker New Member

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    Hello,

    Once again I humbly defer to your wise and mindful experience with Kontakt 5. Digging into the Kontakt 5 instruments I've discovered never ending fun with samples. I looked around abbey road tonight and I see drum loops.

    The only way I see to start the play engine is to click the play button with a mouse. I may have missed something, though I've read the manual, looked under the hood at the scripts and stuff like that. Being a guitarist a foot pedal switch/trigger is always welcome.

    Any help would be uhm, helpful.
     
  2. Aymara

    Aymara NI Product Owner

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    If you use Kontakt in a DAW, you can drag the beats to a MIDI track.

    I use Reaper, which is pretty powerful and shareware. The shareware is fully functional and will never loose it's functionality. But after 60 days, you'll get reminded that you need a licence for legal use ... 60 bucks for private use.

    Reaper can play the beats by pressing the space bar or you could even start and stop with a smartphone app.

    And the best is, you can jam guitar not only to drums, but to a full band, if you like ... one track drums, one track bass and you can record your guitar too.

    So why fiddle around with Kontakt itself, when the solution is so easy?
     
  3. crsmarker

    crsmarker New Member

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    That makes sense too. I've done that with drumcore. That's what inspired me to try abbey road (drumcore 4 is a no show. To many patents to work around maybe? But that's off topic). I guess it's just a question of function in a performance setting. I know i am over complicating things but here's the situation.

    ableton live is set up to record audio and midi loops. it is sort of a beatbox for guitar instead of vocals.

    guitar (hex) > roland gp-10 /or analog > even harmonics gtak (with soft step midi control)/or guitar rig (livid guitar wing midi control) > ableton live (Softstep > bome's midi translator pro, loop recording audio/midi clips, and ik blueboard to select input midi mapped).

    So drum tracks can be done with gtak but abbey road isn't gtak friendly iho. I tried adding the gtak script to abbey road but I don't know enough about scripting to get it to work. But to be honest I did't try that hard. I will try again tonight.
     
  4. Aymara

    Aymara NI Product Owner

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    I don't think playing drum tracks with a MIDI guitar is a good idea. For realistic drum tracks velocity is very important, which can best be achieved with a good keyboard IMHO, if an electric MIDI capable drum set isn't available. Another option is a good pad controller.

    So I would drag MIDI tracks from the Kontakt libraries to a drum track in Ableton and edit them there to your liking. I think, that's the easiest way for non-drummers.
     
  5. crsmarker

    crsmarker New Member

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    I agree that individual drum hits are hard to do on midi guitar. I am trying to avoid using the mouse because both hands are on the guitar in a performance situation.

    What I am really after is a way to trigger the drum loops in abbey road with a midi pedal or note from the guitar. If you look at the urban beats or drum computer scripts there are ways to trigger drum loops or sequences with a note.
    Abbey road drums are already using all five(?) script slots so I don't think I can add a drum computer script and I don't know if it would work regardless; plus there is no room for the gtak script.
     
  6. Aymara

    Aymara NI Product Owner

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    If we talk about live situations on stage, I would build drum loops in the DAW and mute / unmute them or start / stop them, if you only use drums, with a smartphone app.

    I'm currently thinking about that, because I need around 1 meter distance between PC and guitar to avoid recording noise caused by interferences between HDD and guitar pickups.

    In my case I only need DAW controls ... start, stop, rewind, record. But most apps can also control volume of tracks or even synthesizer panel controls.

    Many iPads on stage nowadays ;)