Can someone help me build this bass

hi there,

i am a absolutely newbe to reaktor and programming a synth. there is a bass in a track i really like. and i really would like to know how i can get this sound using reaktor 5. check out this site

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=52775249

and listen to the track "memories". the bass in this track is what i am looking for.

thankx
mo

 

To me it sounds a bit like gentle FM, maybe put through some light distortion or clipping?

I've got a feeling that if you found or built a 2 or 3-operator FM synth, and then put it through a clipper or something like that, you could get close. These guys are having a play with FM now, might be worth a look?

 

can i get this ound with any of the factory ens?
i really dont know how to built a fm synth.

regards

 

Hello

I don't know if it'll do exactly what you want, but here's an ensemble with a simple FM Bass instrument which might come close... This is one I made a while ago, then tweaked this week to add a waveform-selector, inspired by Jopy's work in that thread I mentioned before.

I hope it helps - if not, there's an FM4 (or similarly-named) instrument in the R5 library somewhere, and probably an FM synth or two in the User Library.

Good luck!

 

I got pretty close with Carbon 2, go through the presets and I think you get an idea how to tweak it. Might have to add that dist afterwards.. the only thing I hesitate about is it has got this accent feel to it, a bit like a 303 in square-mode.

Can I be so bold and make a totally different bass request?
http://www.myspace.com/redvolumerecords (Innasekt - Archetype) Just love it, by I don't have a clue with all those variations!

 

Ooo, ello... someone's brought the dubstep!

A friend of mine's thinking about writing some drum & bass, and he's been gently looking for similar sounds. When we discussed it, my theory was that it was a muted sound (gentle FM again, or a sine/parabolic wave, or a very filtered square) which was perhaps split into two channels, one of which was distorted/clipped until it produced insane high-harmonics, and was then high-pass-filtered and mixed back in with the clean, bassy channel.

But I'm wondering if there's a chance it's got 2 separate layers? Like...

1 A sine-wave sub-bass; A MIDI CC boosts its volume gently as it heads into a saturator, so you can flick a fader and it'll sort of well up and growl (quite a subtle drive though, nothing too crazy)
2 Something like a high-pass-filtered other layer, with plenty of harmonic movement, which can be modulated and effected in all sorts of ways? The same MIDI CC could scale the volume of this layer from 0 (or close to 0) right up to 1, so when you flick your magic fader, the sub-bass wells up and a bucketful of mad harmonics from the 2nd layer will pop out from nowhere.

Then... I suppose you could mix the layers together through another very gentle saturator, something to glue them together a bit?

I don't have much building time this week, so if anyone else has any different theories or is up to having a pop at Kotten's building challenge, go for it! That's a couple of avenues I'd think about exploring.

All the best, good luck

Dave

 

i got pretty good results with Junakit for the bass sound on that myspace...worth a try maybe?

innit...some of the best bass sounds...from Skream, Loefah & Digital Mystikz...although the big guns of dubstep use Reason 3, so they say, from an interview.

Myself…am currently working on a “proper” synth build…which is going to be *my* favourite basses…pretty much will accommodate for every bass sound I’ve ever liked (dubstep, dnb), and be as close to the record as possible, mostly variations of sub, wobble, reese, warp etc…this is a very long and gruelling process…especially when most is trial and error building wise :-(

 

THANKX!
I will try the patches and let you know.
i also think this guy is using a delay or reverb. what you guy think?

mo

 

Bit of reverb on the main bass sound I reckon... lots of reverb on the muted chords, and some delay on the techno-ish chords that come in after the main bass sound stops?

That's hilarious if Dubstep's being made in Reason, although it shouldn't be surprising since half of hip-hop's based on MPCs still: popular genres find their instrument, and it's hardly ever insanely complex. Hey, guess what - I've got two halves of a coconut here, I'll be off to write some gabber.

 

can't beleive you're still using coconuts...times have changed, don't you know we’re all using pineapples now?…you purist’s are all the same

i'll post the link to the interview later, it's interesting read on loefah and DMZ's writing process amongst a lot of other things. But yeh, surprising really as DMZ’s sound is incredible, bass wise anyway. The freedownload track on Mala’s (of DMZ) myspace (radio 1 session), would make you think he uses something else, check it, great tune…I used reason for years, it never sounded that good…maybe its just me, heh.

 

It'd be good to get a look at the DMZ interview. And let us know how you get on with the ultimate bass synth too, I'm slightly itching to have a go at a little dubstep machine now...

 

the rookie would like to know:
what are muted chords?

 

my current fave FM synth - Concept X by stephan V, in the User Lib (still in Newest 20 at the time of me writing this).

also, check out FM4 in the factory ensembles.

 

hi there,
the presest "bouncy" in obbass comes pretty close to the bass sound mentioned. needs a little reverb and dist. i think than we've got that sound. pretty cool. any other suggestions are welcome.

thanx too all
mo

 

here you go...haven't read the whole thing myself...

http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_archive.html#8476199566312879794

and if you haven't already heard it...last track on mala's myspace (link below), downloadable too (radio mix)...begins with some old dub sample and then drops into some seminal dubstep bass...then about a minute later...the rabbit hole gets deeper... love it...pretty much the standard...

http://www.myspace.com/malamystikz

 

By "muted" I mean filtered-down...

The bassline goes

ba-bop ... boommmm bop

and on that last "bop" (EG at 5sec and 9sec) there's this very filtered, rich but mellow chord? It reverbs away and the reverb seems to wobble... nice sound! Not an official term though

 

@ m3m, you posted the same time as me and left my post on page 1...but yeh...some stuff there for you

 

They get their plates cut at Transition! I went to get a vinyl cut there once, Jason the owner said he thought the mix was good, but he didn't like the neurotic punk techno of it. He once drove to Switzerland and back in a weekend to pick up spare parts for his lathe. Now there's a gentleman who's all about the bassline.