Change sample start in all zones?

Hi,
is there a way to edit the sample start position for all selected zones at once?

Thanks and bests,
- Mathis

 

That is something I'd like to know too....

anyone?

T

 

I would also like to be able to do this.

 

i dont think you can do it in kontakt by zone editing. howeveri think you can trick around it by scripting

here is a script i made for random sample starts

you could use this to change the start position for all playing zones, if you set both Random min and Random max to the same value (the position you want to start the sample, in milliseconds - note that the sample editor operates in samples, you have to translate)

its not an elegant solution, you could probably change or write your own dedicated script, and maybe add the option to only affect selected groups

Code:

on init
	declare ui_knob $RandMin (0,10000,1)
	declare ui_knob $RandMax (0,10000,1)
	declare ui_label $Info (3, 2)
	make_persistent ($RandMin)
	make_persistent ($RandMax)
	$RandMax := 0
	set_text ($Info, "Values in millisceonds.")
	add_text_line ($Info, "Ex: If sample is 8.42s, set RandMax to 8420.")
end on

on note
		ignore_event($EVENT_ID)
		play_note($EVENT_NOTE,$EVENT_VELOCITY,random($RandMin*1000,$RandMax*1000),-1)
end on

 

Thank you for the suggestion with the script. But I guess it works the same way as the other scripts I know which apply some sample start offset. The problem is they rely on sampler-mode "sampler", but I need to use DFD. That's why I have to alter sample start in the loop editor.

But thanks anyway!
Any more takers?
- Mathis

 

Being able to do this is useful for skipping the attack of a note without having to resort to loading an instrument in Sampler mode. This would be useful for scripts designed for legato transitions, crossfading using polyphony-saving techniques, etc. One could duplicate all groups of an instrument, offset the Sample Start of all zones of the new set in one go and then let scripts switch between these sets for notes with/without attack. There may also be other betters ways so that one wouldn't have to change the group structure.

An alternative way, easier for looped samples but not applicable to non-looped ones, would be to let scripts start the playback at sample offsets corresponding to loop points. K2 already has a preload buffer for these offsets, so it shouldn't be a problem in DFD mode, eg it could look like: play_note(60, 100, $LOOP1, -1)

 

Thank you, Nils, for explaining.

The idea with the loop point would indeed be great, since then no reprogramming of the groups would be necessary, right?

 

Yes, that's right.
I really think this is the way to go, and NI already has the whole infrastructure there for jumping to the start offsets of loops so I think very little work would be needed to implement it. I added this as a feature request, so all of who would like to see this implemented please express your support in this thread.