Chopping vs. just duplicating samples to pads

So I'm working with Maschine with samples and I realized that when I chop up samples then try to edit them later, I get really perplexed by the amount of chop marks on the audio. This is especially problematic when I want sample to start before another sample ends. What I decided to do instead is take the whole song, put it one pad. then copy and paste it onto another pad and truncate it close to where I want it and play with the start and end points to where I want it, rinse and repeat. What are the advantages/disadvantages of this method vs. using chop mode?

 

Are you on M1 or M2? I ask because in Maschine 2 you can have slices overlap in the slice edit screen when you edit the slices manually. If you are in M1, you can still use the slice screen to get some rough chop markers then apply it to a group or sound. After you apply the rough auto slice, you can then go to sampling and edit the chops on the normal sample edit (not slice edit) so that the slices overlap. Duplicate with edit is also a great way to work so whatever is best for your workflow.

I think duplicate method is best when you only want a few slices from here and there. Auto slice is best when you want to chop a whole loop rex style such as a drum loop where you have it play back with the pattern or you want to play it back in order so it sounds like the original loop.

In many cases there is no need to truncate so you may be wasting time on that step. The only reason to truncate is if you want to process the slice destructively and don't want the destructive edit like time stretch fade etc. to affect the other slices. You would then need to truncate so that it creates an independent slice first.

 

I use the duplicate method when it comes to chopping samples... but I always wondered about truncate. I never use it mainly because I want to be able to go in and make changes to my samples start/end markers at anytime. But doesn't this increase the file size of the song if you keep the entire sample instead of just the section you chopped/high lighted.

knocksquared 7min beat making videos on you tube, he only adjusts the start point and doesn't mess with end point.. is it OK to do it like that?

 

It's all up to personal preference. Was just giving some options and details.

As far as truncate, ask yourself how many Mb of data is a single wav file vs. how many TB of disc space on your HD that you can get for $80.00 USD? It makes sense to truncate if you are working only on a particular section of a song. I would just use the selection range (not play range) markers on second page to truncate a range that extends out beyond the whole section you are going to use. But I would not truncate every chop inside that section as it gets kind of pointless. We are not working with a hardware sampler with limited RAM and zip drives.

 

Cool..
that method would be good if your sample has a good intro..and the rest of the sample is totally different.. then just truncate the unnecessary stuff out. But I find myself sampling through out the entire song, taking a piece from everywhere

 

Zip drives - blast from the past Then again, I still have a few of my old Zip disks...

 

Yeah, for that case of taking pieces from various points in the song then you want to stay away from truncate. Unless as I stated you need to destructively process a chop independent of the others.

 

Ha ha, I still got them zips too. Still have my ASR 10 with the original CDrom drive also.

 

Hopefully no one still has the old programming punchcards in a closet somewhere.....

 

Hah my dad used to bring boxes of those home from work for us to make flip animation books on...

 

Good topic.

Does anyone know how I can just have start markers in slice mode? All I need is a choke mode and starting points. It takes up time when I have to place each slice's end point all the way at the end one by one.