comparison of groove boxes

I don't think you're being mocked for your english skills or lack of them. Its the way you present your points about timestretching. You act like you're the only one who's identified a need. Times strecthing means nothing to me but it dooes to a lot of users so I'm sure its being worked on. No need to pretend that Maschine is greatly flawed without it. Also ,to me, the depth of the sample library would mean a lot more than timestretching to a broad spectrum of users; you seem to be in a narrow world since you say that guys that have time stretching beatboxes make better music. This is pretty silly . Timestretching alone is not going to make a good production or so-called producer.

Also your lament about language is understood as I read it but reflects a nativist hatred against english speakers who ,it would seem, have come to the village you live in with out asking your permission.You haven't given this much thought apart from alcohol have you? People migrate to countries all over the world and don't learn the language. Frustrating for some but its just HUMAN NATURE.

 

I'm inclined to agree with the "troll" observation here. Perhaps I'm missing something, but I fail to see the point of the initial post beyond some sort of Maschine slagging. With that said, kudos to all who have tried to find ways to assist "features2010"...good luck with that!

 

unfortunately that is the truth:S
im sorry , im not a troll
I'm not to blame, ye have wasted 600 euros/dollars .
I am also angry.
what do you think why I say this


that machine is more than just a stupid rnb sampler box
exactly rnb and hiphop need the features the least

Besides others
Two image surfaces operate simultaneously and also compose
have fun

Listen to all dance music from the last years of 20th
then you understand
I do not need to explain
who does not believe it had had bad luck
price for this
machine should be able to more than samples chains

 

hmmm maybe I'm not understanding you correctly and forgive me if that's the case
but from your initial post and your last it sounds like (in your opinion) you have a list of several beatmachines that you feel outperform maschine so my question is what are you upset about, it sounds like by your own words that you've got alot of choices and should choose one or several of them and be happy.

secondly and this is from your last post, it sounds like you are not aware of the fact that the music you're bashing and claiming that maschine is only good for is the same music that has been the most influential of the 20th century, even to the point of influencing every other genre just about. so my question to you is what kind of music do you make and don't you know it's history?

btw if I'm not understanding you correctly please accept my apology in advance.

 

none of the "grooveboxes" mentioned by the iunitial poster integrate as well with a computer as well as machine.

but it depends what feature sets are most valuable to u there is no best its all subjective, for what i need maschine is dam near perfect i did not need the features or extras of a mpc1k.

but if u have bought machine and are now frustrated that the other machine mentioned can do things that machine cant then that's down to ur own research prior to buying the unit.

if it dont fit the bill for u then find something else, its like someone buying a Ford car then complaining to the car dealer that its not a lexus, it was neva designed to be a lexus.

 

Great. Now some douche is going to walk around with a chrome Maschine making two-tone beats. Who cares what it looks like, just because your maschine is shinier than mine doesn't mean you know how to use it.

BTW, this is not about you b, I'm just saying. As I get older mods start to get on my nerves, especially for music equipment.

 

features2010 do you really feel like you wasted your money on maschine? i mean i understand that you may have to learn a new workflow (as you would with any new sequencing groove box) but really to say you wasted your money is sadly either stating that you are not properly learning maschine or that you are looking for a completely different product. (the later may likely be the case) i mean did you want an mc-909? cause for the same amount of money you could have bought one... as for updates YES we all want more song arrangement options and timestretch. but you do realize that the song arrangement options are easily overcome via a DAW which maschine WAS MEANT TO INTEGRATE WITH unlike an mc-909. (this also helps with the time stretch issue (and do a search. I have ranted about timestretch more fervently than anyone else on these boards ) (hi-jacking this thread seems to be the best option at this point lol so...@mezzurias... but mods can be nice to. and add to your creative vibe. I mean those wood handles for the mpc 2kxl look damn nice to me. damn I dunno i like to have equipment that aesthetically inspires me too. though I will say the style flip I got for my maschine is great and see no need for a metal version (in fact i think a metal version of what style flip does would not be very cool do to thickness etc.)

 

dude it's just a suggestion calm down. why you gotta hate on other people's preferences? And I don't make 2 tone-tone "beats" i make music. people who make "beats" like in the maschine hip hop thread are only making weak 4 bar loops. I pay more attention to detail than that.
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and acutally I wouldn't buy one asap i'm in need of a new computer

 

Anyone that has the barefaced cheek to dis 2 entire genres outright, is not worth any more effort whatsoever.

 

calm down... there big guy i have posted in that thread and never once posted a 4 bar loop. lets not be RUDE thanks.

 

not everyone my bad, lol

 

+1

Plus, if you can't make music on Maschine you're hopeless.

 

@ b-natural sorry man I was busting your balls lol.

 

good thing you're not a guitarist or bassplayer then.

 

Having owned and MC909 (Sold) and an MC808 (*Sits in cupboard and gathers dust) and now Maschine, my clear preference is without a doubt Maschine. I won't go into a feature comparison as for me it is about the total Maschine experience, workflow, tight software integration and future possibilities.

How many upgrades did the Roland boxes get?

In the most recent 'update' to the Korg's, what was actually updated?

Not neccessarily knocking these hardware boxes most were good in their own way, but for mine, Maschine leaves them all for dead. No contest.

MIK

 

fwiw:

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/forum/showthread.php?t=119598

is where features2010 Features Request are.

maybe debate them there

sowari

 

ok thanks my friend

 

how is MASCHINE even comparable to a groovebox? did i understand something wrong here... thought maschine is a mere sampling controller thing for software, not a standalone sound device...

 

lol very entertaining thread
from my point of view, i only had the korg tribes under my fingers,
maschine absolutely pwns them away
-soundquality
-fx (much more usable in maschine and more assignable)
-usable sounds/samples
-visuality/display
-polyphonie
-integration

 

okay. go use maschine. then go use a groovebox... wait, did I just answer back to this.. seriously... I feel dirty. need to go take a shower now.