Creating a sequenced multifx

One day I came across this nice effect from Audiodamage (Biseq):
http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/product.php?pid=AD009

I really love this simple to use sequenced gate and filter plugin.
The thing is that I want to add more functions to it without making it more difficult to use. To keep it simple is very important!

'Sowari' at this forum helped me out with the first steps. Sadly he didn't got more time working on the plug.

The problem is that I have got no time either and wonder if someone want to try out making the plug.
I already did a sketch of my idea that you can download.
'Sowari' allowed me to use his .ens template.

I really hope this is possible.

 

Re: questions in your fx sketch.

concerning the active knobs are actually sequencer buttons. they switch the sound between a filtered sound and a non-filtered sound.
my version is totally based on reading the BigSeq manual:-

http://www.audiodamage.com/manuals/BigSeq_Manual.pdf

you can of course change the sliders (faders) to knobs.

regarding the delay with a pre-delay. are you mixing up delay and reverb?

sowari

 

That's totally right! I was mixing it up

 

This sounds very similar to my current project - I'm making a clone of dbGlitch in Reaktor (about 75% done with the tape stop effect). Everything would be sequenced in the same way you have it laid out, I just have more effects going on - tapestop, stutter, shuffle (that one should be weird - anybody know anything about VST readahead?), and probably a couple others. It wouldn't be hard to incorporate the two together. Do you have AIM?

 

Mushoo, you can get in touch with coongaman through this forum's Private Messages

click on your profile, you should see it.

btw, your effect sounds interesting

sowari

 

Sowari - Coongaman has turned off private messaging and emails :/

I've got a mostly-working version of the effect going, now. Sounds really fun on a massive. It still needs a bit of use-ability work, but all the hard math is done with, which I'm very happy about. I'll post it if you guys are interested.

 

ok, he must have turned it off recently.

and yes, i am very interested in your fx

sowari

 

Hello, I'm back!

Sorry for turning off private messages. I think it's on now
I don't have AIM.

Wow, your effect sounds very interesting. And yes, I am very interested testing it. I have tried out 'dbglitch'. I like it, but find the interface a bit messy. Would like it more intuitive. Maybe it's just me , but for live use an easy interface is a must.

 

Ah, hello! OK, this is still a relatively early version. Issues:

Interface:
•Changing the pattern (the Y axis of the event table) for the sequencer doesn't update the buttons. Once I get this worked out I will probably remove the event table display and just use the buttons.
•The duration of the effect is still defined by the speed of the pattern - should be separate.
•Having two triggers in a row will not trigger the second event - something about the way the event table is handling this.
- The only fix I can think of off the top of my head is to make the event table range from 0-2, and have every other trigger button set it to 2 instead of 1. This fix would cause problems down the line, however, as I'd like to have a version of the full effect where there's one sequencer for all effects (like in dbGlitch), and you can only set one effect to be active at a time.

Audio Glitchies:
•For some reason the effect likes to turn back on itself, into reverse play, after a certain length. I'm not sure if I mind this, it actually sounds somewhat interesting.
•Reeeeaaaallly need to figure out a good way to de-click the entrance/exit of the effect. - maybe a slew limiter somewhere in the signal chain, with the slew rate affected by the speed of the tape. (IE 1x speed = no slew, .5x = heavy slew)
•This may get fixed by the slew rate limiter, but putting the effect on heavy bass lines (try it with the Massive module that's connected) sounds kinda grungy and nasty.
•I've been thinking of putting a filter of some sort near the end of the signal chain, with the envelope controlled by the tape speed - something to simulate tape hiss slowing down as well, or the like. Basically I want some high frequency content to activate as the slowdown occurs.
•The whole thing is still mono >.<

I think that's it. So yeah, it's still a bit of a mess - but at least now I've written everything out that I need to do!

If you guys notice any other issues, lemme know!

Fake Edit: OK, so with the Massive included in the ensemble, it was a 45 meg file - now there's a blue matrix hooked up instead. Hook up a massive or whatever else you feel like to the right input of the module - the left connection doesn't do anything.

 

Wow, I just took a look at the sequencer in your linked ensemble, coongaman - I may have to steal it, if that's alright!

 

About the attached ensemble, as I wrote, It is a ensemble made by 'sowari'. I got the idea from Audiodamage's 'Biseq' plugin and asked someone to make it. He made a suggestion, but didn't got more time for the project. Then I got more ideas and painted the sketch of my idea. He let me use the ensemble for a starting point to start a new thread. This is the new thread
You are free to use the ensemble as you want.

I will try out your effect tomorrow.
Looking forward to it

 

Hahaha, Coonga, I got your PM - but I can't reply, since I only have 7 posts on the forums, and apparently I need 20 to be allowed to talk to people.

 

Too bad!

Anyway, about your issues with the plug. Maybe 'sowari' can help you out in a way. Seems like he knows a little about building with reaktor.
For me, I don't know nothing. I don't have much time for doing it either. Wish I had, though.

 

I really love those effects and synth sounds that this machine produce.

I'm sorry to ask about this, but how do I turn off the synth sounds?
My main interest of the effect is to use it as an insert effect in Ableton and Cubase.

Please keep me udated!

 

You mean the blue matrix synthesizer that's in the ensemble? It's just wired into the 'Instrument' instrument (creative, isn't it?) You should be able to open up the structure window and rewire the inputs on the left into the tape stop instrument.

I think the next thing I'm gonna do is merge this tapestop effect into Sowari's excellent little sequencer. This'll hopefully let me make it possible to give each tape-hit it's own duration (though I doubt you'd be able to layer them on each other, it would just restart if you had one with a quarternote duration, and then another one an 8th note later).

Glad you like the effect

 

OK, I think i've got it working pretty well. There's still a couple tweaks I'd like done, but I'm not sure I can do them myself >.<

I've got it done using sowari's sequencer, parts of which I may have broken (shouldn't the 'gate' section work a little differently? right now, if I have it set to 1/4th seq, the gates still only last for like a 32nd note - shouldn't they last for quarter notes, in 1/4th mode?)

Anyway, the tape stop has a similar problem - the durations of it are (or at least should be) linked to the bpm. But they don't seeme to be linked to the sequencer rate at all, and that's bothering me - but I don't know how to fix it. Sowari, if you're still looking at this topic, would you mind taking a look at it and seeing what might be a good way of doing it?

There's some other backend tweaks that need to be done - the tapestop isn't affected by the master controls, for instance, and it's not really a stereo macro, I just have two of them in there, which is rather redundant.

But! It's working, it sounds pretty good, and it's working!

The ensemble is, or should be, set up to be easily run as a VST effect on an audio channel, though it's not hard to open it in reaktor and add a massive as the input (which sounds really cool.)

So, let me know your thoughts, and if there's anything you think I should fix up a bit more.

 

New (not much has changed) version! I renamed it, and the tapestop effect is hereby 100% completely totally utterly done. Next up: stutter/repeater!

Changes: The tapestop's duration is now affected by how fast the sequencer is running - it gets a little weird if you use 1-length stops on 8th notes, and even weirder the faster you get, but it's still interesting. It ends up speeding up the playback instead of slowing it down.

Also, the control has changed a little bit - instead of faders that have a range of 1-4, they're now buttons of values 1, 2, 4, and 8 sequencer steps.