Different "tick" Sounds

it would be nice to have different tick sounds. like maybe 5 or 6 kick drums and some other percussion to select from. I find it hard to line ticks up perfect on some material, and if i had at least a similar sound, you could line them up to the point of cancellation, then you would know its dead on.

For now, im forces to play a loop i made in ableton of which i know the tempo is perfect in one deck while i sync the other to it.

 

+1

A hand clap tick would be handy for a lot of my tracks that have hand claps. Could probably phase them together for a really tight grid.

 

I also find it hard to line up my songs perfectly using the click track.
It seems to me that when I line up my beatgrids visually, the click track does not fall dead on to the visual beat-grid. Anyone else notice there seems to be a slight latency?

To get around this, I have also been using one of my perfectly beat-gridded tracks to align the beat-grids of all my other tracks to.

And yes, the addition of a few other sounds would be cool.

 

Nod...the tick is not properly aligned with the beginning of the kick..seems it's always a little bit before...I set everything to the tick...I hope I'm not wasting my time and when the next Traktor version comes down the road I'll have to start all over again. Alas I've got it down to a science and usually have it done in about 20-30 seconds.

The way I listen to make it match the tick is that when I can barely hear the tick "gallop", the tick pretty much goes away and am left with the kick of the track...sounds pretty close ableit not 100% bang on..maybe 97-99%.

 

Apart from a lack of a volume knob the Tick is perfectly fine for me. It's in sync with the songs; as long as they are exactly on the beatgrid, of course.
I also don't think that it should be anything melodic or percussion-ish. A simple noise tick like the current works well enough and can be easily identified as the tick sound. You don't want something that sounds like a part of the tracks.

But as I said, fully relying on Traktor's internal mixer, a volume knob for the Tick level is neccessary. I'm not able to use the tick in TP as it's way too loud on my headphones.

 

Hm...so you're saying when the beatgrid is right at the beginning of the kick...your tick sound is spot on? I always find that my beatgrid is a little bit more to the left of the kick than it should be...and only then is the tick correct...this is why I hope when they fix the issue that what you hear and what you see if different that they fix what you see and not the tick...or else I'd have to re-beatgrid all my tracks.

 

I'm glad I finally found this post. I'm a bit too much of a perfectionist with beat-matching sounding right. In Ableton, using a kick or tick was the way to go. In TP I'm finding myself seeing a slight gap at times between the grid marker coming 1st and then the beat 2nd. I move the grid for accuracy and where it sounds the "cleanest" to my ears is often times with the grid slightly preceding what I see as the peak of the waveform. I use highs for beat gridding, but it wouldn't make sense that that is the cause.

So...do you grid by ear or grid visually? Visually is faster and as someone points out, if the tick property changes in the future due to program changes we'll be in a hell of a position.

Anyone have some Einstein-like insight on this?
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Update and Proposed Solution:
I finally remembered the track mapping process from Ableton and realized that many people who use a beat to warp/map to use a midi kick drum loop. I went ahead and made a 4 beat loop and imported into TP. Guess what...the sound of the two were not clean; it was not consistent all the time. Tested out some things and found:
1. Keylock will inconsistently muddy up the sound.
2. Turn keylock off and the sound was right on with the kick drum loop, even when bpm was different than the loop's base bpm of 128.

Now, I propose you guys try this out:
1. Turn off keylock. Even if the master bpm is the same as the track bpm, it seemed to me I still heard inconsistancies when keylock was on.
2. Consider getting a kick loop or something that will be your reference point. TP may change it's tick sound behavior, but that loop won't ever change.

I know keylock can F-up a track's sound. Is that a bug or not? If that's not a bug, it damn sure needs to be improved (maybe the upcoming elastique algorithm will fix it).