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Dimebag Darrel How to?

Dieses Thema im Forum "Tone Workshop" wurde erstellt von berardi, 14. Februar 2007.

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  1. berardi

    berardi Forum Member

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    Does anyone knows how to achieve the darrel sound? I've been fiddling around with GR2 for hours with no good results.

    If you know, please show me.

    Cheers.

    Pablo.
     
  2. sirkossorg

    sirkossorg NI Product Owner

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    Lots of experimentation. Your setup is going to be different than mine, so I can't give you specifics. GR2 has so many knobs, it takes a while to get used to what does what.

    In my experience with GR2, the most important thing for achieving a tone is EQ. Don't be afraid to insert EQ in many different parts of your patch. I have some pretty mean metal patches in my Rig, and it is mostly due to EQ.

    After that, cabinets and Mics. Don't be afraid to use multiple cabinets and mic settings.

    Good luck. Hope I helped.
     
  3. Marc_S

    Marc_S NI Product Owner

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    Gratifier, drop the mids to 0 and ad the "mezzone" pedal, or whatever it's called, (the metal zone)...

    That should get you very close.

    The key to metal is lack of midrange.

    Marc
     
  4. berardi

    berardi Forum Member

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    Thank you guys. Taking out the midranges i have achieved very good results. Now ill go with param. eq's.
     
  5. Eikeee

    Eikeee NI Product Owner

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    Try the Demon distortion pedal, it's supposed to be a model of his MXR signature pedal.
    I made a Dimebag Tribute remix (scrambling a C64 game song with Pantera riffs- I know it's weird) using GR2.
    http://www.remix64.com/tune_294300.html
     

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  6. Fill Brisell

    Fill Brisell NI Product Owner

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    :-D :-D :-D I liked this!
    ...and this should stop the debate that GR2 can't be used for serious distortion tones once and for all. It's in your playing.
    And I liked the Amiga links ;-)
     
  7. cabomano

    cabomano NI Product Owner

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    Dude, that's some killer ****...
     
  8. Lastcaress83

    Lastcaress83 NI Product Owner

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    Any chance you have a preset for the heavy tone?
     
  9. Marc_S

    Marc_S NI Product Owner

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    Why does my neck hurt?
     
  10. Fill Brisell

    Fill Brisell NI Product Owner

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    I know what you did this weekend...



    (and yes, it has something to with some inevitable motion you have to do when listening to the track above...)
     
  11. spaids

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    Eikeee!

    Dude that is awesome! What a great tribute. Taking Dimes kick ass riffs and doing your own thing with it. Dime would have loved it. I think he was once quoted as saying that we are all borrowing each others riffs anyway. So now in true Dime generosity fashion PUT THAT PATCH IN THE USER LIBRARY! PLEASE! And what are you using to get those drum loops off the CD? I just got Cubase and I think I should try learn how to pull killer loops off my favorite songs.

    Dude you Shred! Good Job

    Spaids
     
  12. eviltobz

    eviltobz Forum Member

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    i've read that dime tended to play through solid state amps rather than tubes as he prefered the harshness that they bring, so that might be something worth keeping in mind when trying to create some of his tones.
     
  13. berardi

    berardi Forum Member

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    He used solid states until he designed his own Amp model along with Krank amps.
     
  14. Eikeee

    Eikeee NI Product Owner

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    Ok, I have to look up where I got it, hopefully it still exists...:)

    They aren't loops. I was able to rip one bassdrum and two individual snare hits from "Good friends and a bottle of pills" of FBD and programmed all the grooves with additional hihats and cymbals from various sources.

    Thanks, man!

    That's right, but then he sounded much different using those Krank amps in Damageplan, it's not what I'd call his "signature tone".
     
  15. berardi

    berardi Forum Member

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    I agree, nothing beats the good old cowboys from hell tone...
     
  16. spaids

    spaids Forum Member

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    hey Eikeee,

    will you repost a message here after you upload the Dime patch so we all get a notification? I checked out your band page by the way. Very good. Like the tracks on myspace. I'm gonna be in Scandinavia the last week of May you guys ever gig up there? I'de like to catch a cool metal show while I am up there.
     
  17. crizkeeth

    crizkeeth NI Product Owner

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    Yeah, well however youre trying to achieve the sound, I would definitely start off with a Gratifier..
     
  18. patrock

    patrock NI Product Owner

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    Dime tone is king. I'm new to guitar rig. Do you perform live with the shuttle or the laptop? I'm considering new hardware. I'd like to use some of the pitch shifting live but the latency is crap when I try to get some chunk chunk in it. I'm wondering if more cpu would help. Any thoughts much appreciated.
     
  19. Nikko Daniels

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    Eikeee, this is some outstanding stuff! NICE work! I don't remember that song from Speedball, but that was one of my favorite games of all time on the C64 AND Amiga.
     
  20. Fill Brisell

    Fill Brisell NI Product Owner

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    Patrock: unfortunately I don't perform on stage much now, but in the practice room the laptop works very well. I only get the odd crackle when I use some very CPU hungry presets, like those with pitch-shifters, dual cab sims and reverbs. Playing Pantera-like stuff with mainly distortion and EQ draws very little CPU in comparison.
    Although I don't have *the* fastest CPU available, I am certain that this will not improve pitch shifting latency (and its sheer quality). The programming and perhaps the algorithm used is poor / sub standard. Note that a good pitch shifted sound depends on your playing technique; a 'dirty' attack with lots of string sliding will be next to impossible to track for any device, and you should not play anything than single notes anyway - if you're not looking for very experimental results... However I had an over ten years old* rack unit from Roland with intelligent pitch shifting and all, that performed way better than GuitarRig 2 does, so at least I am certain that in my case, the playing is not the problem ;-). The CPUs they could use then was much weaker than what we have today, so the programming is the problem. I am looking forward to a huge improvement in GuitarRig 3!
    But neither the forthcoming GuitarRig 3 nor any ordinary Pitch shifter will make your guitar sound like its tuned down to C or whatever. You need a VG8 or similar (with a special pickup) to do something aproaching that.

    * This means I am old enough to have been a guitar teacher when Pantera first came around - and that rocked! I also used an Amiga as my main and everything computer.
     
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