Disconected Switch and a Counter

I'm hoping someone can help me out with this one. Essentially this tiny structure is causing me some problems in a current project; I've also attached a .zip file if you want to try it out.

The reset and count buttons are setup in Gate mode. The reset button has an On value of 0 and an Off Value of 1. The count button sends an On value of 1 and an Off Value of 0. A value is added to the counter each time the Count button is released.

I also have a switch; In this example it's not even connected to anything. When I press a button on the switch a value is also added to the counter. Why are all the switches in my project adding values to this counter? How else could I count when this button is released and keep the switches in my project?

 

this is an enigmatic part of reaktor known as global reset events

here's a tutorial on what they are, how they work and how to avoid them: http://www.nireaktor.com/reaktor-tutorials/global-reset-events-in-reaktor/

 

this problem sounds familiar


i made some quick changes that seem to work ok. (in the attached image).
this is assuming you want the counter to be reset to 1. if you want it to be reset to 0 then you can remove the value module. all the functions of the buttons are the same as they were.

im not sure if the order of events in this structure will change the fact that it works though. im sure salamanderanagram can tell us this.

 

Hmm. I read that a long long time ago. Perhaps this was why I tended to avoid the usage of switches for many things, since they re-fire values for whatever reason. Conundrum.

 

Unfortunately, the problem with your example is that it adds a value when the Count button is pressed, but I need it to add a value when the Count button is released.

 

ok. fixed. i have added a breaker that i used recently in a similar problem (big thanks to salamanderanagram and herw).

i attached the image of where to put it and the core cell itself.

this breaks the connection between the count buttons seperator and the counter up input when a global reset event is received.

 

i just realised i accidentally kept some of the changes i made to your setup. you can use your original setup and the breaker should work the same if placed just before the up input.

 

It was closer though,Tun. This variation appears to be working:

 

Ha. You responded at the same time. ...But yeah, thanks for your help.

 

thats odd. that shouldnt work :/ the event will still be sent on a global reset. i just tested it and it didnt work here. maybe ive got something set up differently.

 

ciao herw

PS: if you want to learn core then use this

 

Yeah; I discovered that after I implemented it. My first example increased the counter with the press of every switch which was a major problem. When the switch is pressed in this version it resets the counter to 2.

 

Let me try that out. I've done some work in core, but there are certain elements that hurt my brain. That was of course several years ago so maybe I should flip through the core manual again and see if I comprehend more of it now.

 

you mean in the version i replied with? it works fine here. i just rebuilt it to make sure.
it shouldnt because it is reading the value of the reset button in its current state, which is off (1), which is routed straight to the seperators hi output and ends there.

however, i would recommend herws version. its very simple, tidy and efficient.

 

Oh, no. I originally didn't see your other response. This structure resulted in the 2 in the reset column:


I tried your last recommendation as well as herw's and both are working fine in that simple structure. When I place it in this larger project I'm working on, switches are still causing the counter to add another value so I am assuming I have another problem to track down somewhere.

 

i dont mind having a look at the whole thing if you want. maybe i can help find a solution.

 

Thanks, but believe it or not... I think I found it. It was an "unnecessary" Order module. It's placement seemed to make sense when I was in the building process, but deleting it and reconnecting the wires solved all my problems.

 

glad you fixed it