DP 4 or logic 6? and some newbie comments

Well, from reading through some of the posts on here, I can see that quite a few people have problems using R4 with Logic 6 in OS X. So I'm wondering - is R4 more stable with DP 4?

I'm starting to get really bummed with how poorly R4 works on my Mac. As a new user it's very clear to me that NI did not do its homework with R4 on the Mac at all. It's a shame because it took me all of five minutes to realize the vast potential this program has, but in three days, I've had nothing but problems. It may not be fair to compare the two, but I've run Reason 1, 2, and 2.5 for some time now without a single glitch. I guess I've come to expect that kind of reliability.

 

you mean you actually expect things to work as advertized?

I can't tell you anything about DP4 stability - sorry.

I don't entirely blame NI for the problems lots of users are having with R4. The OSX evolution at apple is really complicating things for developers - or is it just NI (I don't know) . But regardless we're all in a tough situation.

I'm still waiting for the REAL R4 to appear as well. In the meantime - cheer up - R3 never really sucked! And I mean that in the nicest way NI.

BC

 

you may have to wait on DP4

The whole reason that my studio is not mac based is because I'm waiting for DP4. Now that it is OSX compatible is great, but they dont support audio units just yet so you cant really use reaktor with DP4 in OSX yet. Kind of a downer. But on the plus side, you could save up to get a new G5 while you are waiting.

 

If you want to use Reaktor, I'd say Cubase SX is your best bet for now actually. I use it... I like it... it's good, but I hate it for recording. Great for effects, mixing, and MIDI and such though. Plus the upgrade was cheap....

 

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Ciao,

Actually, one can use Reaktor with DP4 under OS X. I have been using
the combination quite smoothly.
Since there is as of yet no Audio Units support, the only negative is
that one must route the audio output of Reaktor physically out of the
computer and back in. If one uses a digital interface or mixer, this
should be quite straightforward, and can be done without loss of
fidelity.

Cheers,
3

 

3,
How are you routing MIDI out of DP4 to R4? What's your overall impression of DP4?

AJ

 

CoreMIDI, I suspect. System level OMS and fun for the whole family.

As for DP4(.01), I haven't done much MIDI work in it (neither programming nor recording), but I'm very impressed with the way it's behaved this weekend. I've recorded my band without a single crash, and the fact that I just got it last week yet have been able to mix a three track demo in it (automation and all) does say a lot about it's user friendliness!

-Paws

 

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Via CoreMIDI. It worked very smoothly as soon as I installed and set
the preferences in Reaktor.

DP4 is a beautiful program, and 4.01 seems quite stable on OS 10.2.6.
If you"re familiar with DP 3.x, the move to DP4 is painless, as
functionally there is not that much difference (a few new features,
like the Freeze function, but DP4 is mostly a port of DP3 to OSX).

Working with Logic yesterday made me appreciate the elegance and
intelligent design of DP. Both programs have their strengths, but to
my mind at least, Logic is in need of an interface re-design.

Cheers,
3

 

If you are on a Mac.. I'd go Logic..
DP4 aint bad but Logic is Apple and solid..Stability is the key and cpu performance is tuned to the OS..
R4 AU is not bad and will be better I'm sure in the next weeks with next update..Last update was very promising for the AU.

 

What has me leaning toward DP4 is the fact that I work with a MOTU 828. Obviously, a hardware/software combo from the same comapny is an optimal choice, but I've read that the MOTU works fine with Logic 6. However, seems like a lot of people on here have problems with R4 and Logic, and that gives me pause. Besides, Logic is more expensive and I don't really need a lot of the bells and whistles it comes with.

Oh, by the way, this is a cool forum. You cats are quite helpful, and I appreciate it.

 

I have a Motu 828 on OSX and OS9 works perfect in Logic..Not one complaint.

 

Iif you get the 828 you can upgrade from the included software (AudioDesk) to DP for a very reduced price

Problem is, AU support in DP isn't there for a few more months. Which is pony and sort of cripples the app for me. But I'm not whining. Nope. Not a complaint from happy chappy noisetonepause - I'm not going back to Logic. I like DP. I can wait.

Grrrrr.

-Paws

 

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Actually, AU support will be here In DP 4.1 on August 8th, a day that
will live in infamy.
Along with DAE support, virtual instruments (a la iLogic), and quite
a few other improvements.
As a free downloadable upgrade, no less.
Fire up your modems!

http://www.musicalmac.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=24&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0


Cheers,
3

 

To be honest with you..
DP4 is quite a nice program and well up there with logic.PT,Cubase players..It all really is down to what you like..I do not know DP so I cannot give you a real answer..I know Logic and can just say it works and is very dependable and support is amazing.I think by now owned by Apple the code/OS and harware to be well be amazing combination.

 

So if I understand correctly, as of Aug. 8, I should be able to use R4 in DP4 without a problem?

Andhere's a question for you Logic users: Let's say I record some guitar tracks at a friend's house on my iBook, which runs Audio Desk. Can I take that track home and load it into Logic? I know I can do this with DP.

 

Sure..just import the audio files..but better yet..Just download or install from cd Logic 6 on your friends Ibook and plugin your dongle..Record what you want..do a full on session .Save it all in the Project Manager..as an entire folder..Burn it to disk,or other media means..Bring it home.Then boot up Logic on your home studio and open up the song file and all will be back same as at your friends jam session..Save it and do the same to continue at your friends the enxt day..so on..

 

I dunno. I had problems recording eights simultaneous tracks with my iBook using Audio Desk. I'm assuming that Logic 6 will be more of a RAM load.

 

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Well, you already can use R4 with DP4 now, with the limitation of
routing the audio output via external hardware.

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