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Discussion in 'REAKTOR' started by reaktorluv, Aug 5, 2004.

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  1. reaktorluv

    reaktorluv New Member

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    Hi just a simple question here.

    I am trying to control a sine sync oscillator with MIDI and the amplitude aparently doesn't take event signals so I can't just attach a gate to it. How do I convert the event signal of the gate to an audio signal so the amplitude input on the sine sync will accept it? Thanks.
     
  2. imoteon

    imoteon NI Product Owner

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    plug the gate to the Sine module Amplitude, and you'll see it works... ;-)
     
  3. reaktorluv

    reaktorluv New Member

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    hhmm

    hhmmm yes, i tried that already but it doesn't work. I'm suspicious too because the label of the input "A" is black not red like the "P" for the pitch input which is taking my midi pitch in fine. I am talking about the "sine sync" module not the regular "sine" module here.
     
  4. John Nowak

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    Everything can take events as input. There is no need to convert anything manually.
     
  5. reaktorluv

    reaktorluv New Member

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    ok got it to work

    Ok, got it to work. For some reason just connecting a gate didn't do anything, but I created an ADSR envelope to go in between the gate and "A" input. The ADSR module had a black color coded output that matched the A input and it works now.
     
  6. John Nowak

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    The colors matching has nothing to do with it... but hey, what do we know?
     
  7. reaktorluv

    reaktorluv New Member

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    jesus

    I don't know what your problem is with me guy, sorry your having a sour day or whatnot.

    "The colors matching has nothing to do with it... but hey, what do we know?"

    Apparently so much that you can't help me with the problem I'm having. Thanks.
     
  8. Lauren Sikora

    Lauren Sikora Account Suspended

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    I'm sure John can help you. He is, after all, a wonderful Reaktor programmer and an incredibly nice guy.

    John is correct... events do not need to be converted somehow to audio signals to be used for the A input in the Sine Sync object. Mirjun is right as well.

    Perhaps if you posted a your patch they'd be able to help you more... but the problem you are describing doesn't make any sense. I'd be curious to see what the on value of the gate is actually.

    'Tis "you're having" btw.
     
  9. John-Paul

    John-Paul NI Product Owner

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    Reaktorluv,

    I think you express too much love and goodness with your name.

    Johnny doesn't handle issues of love and goodness so well anymore.

    --


    Here's a bit of back story:

    An individual in the past accused Mr Nowak of being a bit of a hippie after oggling a picture the lovely Ms Sikora had taken of him with her mobile phone and subsequently placed on the internet.

    This was quite the trauma for now fragile and fractured young Johnny.

    From that day forth his mind and spirit have become a seething cesspool of verbal venom and misdirected angst towards everything that is love, beauty, long hair farming, camaraderie, goodness and marmite (yum!).

    But is was GW Bush that truly pushed him over the abyssimal ledge.

    Blame the President for the lost soul that we now call John Nowak.

    ---

    As a personal observation: I think Johnny is warming to you.. you're the first person in a long time that he's flamed and has kept coming back for more! Very impressive indeed.

    Welcome to the Reaktorland express. Enjoy the Ride.

    PS: John, thanks for the congrats on my new job! I'm fully amped about it. And yes, our email server here at work is complete arse.. spammer.. pfft.

    That's what I get for working for a big corporation.
     
  10. imoteon

    imoteon NI Product Owner

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    you can't help it doing it, can you? ;-)
     
  11. John Nowak

    John Nowak Account Suspended

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    Hm?
     
  12. imoteon

    imoteon NI Product Owner

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    i simply wanted to say:
    you can't help talking about you...

    (given the nonsense of my phrase, maybe i should resign myself to the fact that i'm as bad at english as at maths...) ;-)

    or is it me who see you everywhere on this forum?
     
  13. CList

    CList Moderator

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    Red ports are event, black ports are audio.
    Events ports can be conneced to audio ports with no conversion.
    Audio cannot be converted to event because audio happens at the sample rate, and events happen at the (much lower) event (or "control") rate.

    You should have no problem driving an oscillator "A" input with a gate signal.

    *HOWEVER*

    That is generally considered to be a bad idea. It's better to just hook a constant of "1" up to the amplitude input of the oscillator, and somehwere down the line, multiply the output by either the gate signal (which we result in clicks and pops) or the output of an ADSR.

    Why? Because modulating the amplitude of the oscialltor at it's source will prevent you from doing things FM synthesis properly with two oscillators. It's also not the way it was done in 99.9% of classics synths so if you're looking for an analog sound, you want the osciallator to be at full volume when it's driving the filter, and the output of that should be attenuated with the ADSR signal.

    I highly reccommend checking out some of the structures of the synths in the libary that came with the software, or here in the online user lib for ideas, and folowing them as an example.

    You'll find it's much easier than starting completely from scratch.

    Check question #3.5 in the FAQ (link below).

    - CList

    p.s.
    DAMN! NASDAQ's down another 2.5% today. I've lost a hell of a lot of money in the past 2 months...
     
  14. John Nowak

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    I was just being coy. ;-)
     
  15. John Nowak

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    Damn... sucks. :-(

    My virtual portfolio of Apple stock.. and more Apple stock.. has been doing quite well. Just buy a month before any major expo, follow the rumors religiously, and you haul down a clean 30-50% return a year.
     
  16. reaktorluv

    reaktorluv New Member

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    CLIST

    Thanks CLIST I figured the colors meant something and didn't "have nothing to do with it." Even though what I was trying theoretically should have worked it didn't but I got it now, thanks for the extra info though.
     
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