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Eddie Van Halen - VH1 tone tutorial

Discussion in 'Tone Workshop' started by mrlevi, 2/12/08.

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  1. mrlevi

    mrlevi Forum Member

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    Hi All,

    I created a tutorial for Eddie's tone for Guitar Rig 3.
    The purpose of it is to inspire you to create your own sound.
    Nothing is written in stone.
     
  2. kitemonkey

    kitemonkey New Member

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    Nice job on this.
     
  3. Gimiz

    Gimiz New Member

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    Any way you share your gr3 preset for lazy guys :p ?

    TY and NICE work, love it =)
     
  4. Karyn

    Karyn NI Product Owner

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    You say the final reverb is to loud and you can't use the wet/dry mix to turn it down.

    Yes, I see that the wet/dry mix control would simply replace the reverb sound with dry sound, but why add in a volume pedal when directly below the reverb in the stack is the split mix control which is specificaly intended to adjust the vol of each split channel?

    Am I missing something obvious?
     
  5. mrlevi

    mrlevi Forum Member

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    Hi Karyn,

    You can use the reverb in parallel or serial and you already know that assuming from your comment.
    For my taste and for this tone the reverb lacks of a lot of highs.
    What I did is to solve this is to place a splitter after the amp and send one side to the cabinet and one to the reverb in parallel.
    So one side has no cabinet only the amp, which makes an awfull lots of high-end, which is also makes a horriblle noise... EXCEPT if you turn the WET all the way up so you only hear the reverbed reflection fomr that "noise" which will add the missing high end.
    If you turn the WET down, you start to hear the NOISE, so I placed a volume pedal to control the reverb level instead.

    I hope it makes sense. Let me know it you have any question.

    mrlevi
     
  6. phungvuu

    phungvuu New Member

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    very good sound

    listened to them all ,very good sound,do we have any chance to download this patch.thnx
     
  7. mrlevi

    mrlevi Forum Member

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    I will upload it when I get home.
     
  8. Karyn

    Karyn NI Product Owner

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    Hi mrlevi.

    I fully understand why you put the reverb in a parallel split, and I understand why you need the 'full wet' sound from the reverb. Driving the reverb direct from the amp is a great way to add treble boost without adding a treble boost stomp box.

    What I don't get is why you're using a vol pedal to adjust the reverb level and not using the split chanel mix control that comes directly after... you know, the slider thing that moves left/right to mix between a/b channels.

    To my eyes the vol pedal is simply using cpu time without adding anything.

    Karyn
     
  9. mrlevi

    mrlevi Forum Member

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    Oh I see!

    The reason because I originally was working on a Panama patch.
    Gitar is on the left with delay. And pure reverb on the right.
    So I panned the split that way. I didn't want to mix the left and the right side, but I needed to control the volume of the reverb.
     
  10. Karyn

    Karyn NI Product Owner

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    Can I first say that the patch sounds fantastic and that I wish I could play half as well. I don't want you to think I having a go at you.

    But,

    regardless of how the a/b channels are panned, if chan b (reverb) is too loud then moving the a/b slider towards chan a will turn down the reverb.
     
  11. mrlevi

    mrlevi Forum Member

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    Thanks,

    I wasn't thinking about that. Then lets get rid of the volume pedal :)
     
  12. AnalogKid

    AnalogKid New Member

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    Awesome job on this.
     
  13. stratoholic

    stratoholic NI Product Owner

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    Very nice and kind of you to share. Have you seen the YouTube video of Deweasel Zappa playing with the EVH sound. Really nice sound and I never realized with a good guitarist he is!
     
  14. cobraii

    cobraii Forum Member

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    Did the preset ever get posted?
    Where is it?

    thks
     
  15. Stan_Halen

    Stan_Halen NI Product Owner

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    I followed the instructions for the Eddie tone tutorial and came up with a Preset. I have attached it in the standard .bnk file "10 Metal & HiGain", which is contained in the .zip folder. The Preset is the last one in the Bank: 57 EVH Brown ##. I would have just exported the one Preset but all I know how to do is export the whole Bank. I guess you can rename the file after download and upzip so you don't overwrite your existing Bank file when you copy it into the Guitar Rig folder.

    Note: I am on Guitar Rig 2! I was not able to add the Tape Echo component since I don't seem to have it! Otherwise I think I got all the settings on each component according to the tutorial.
     

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  16. rich sounds

    rich sounds Forum Member

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    thanks for that
     
  17. stormyandcold

    stormyandcold NI Product Owner

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  18. CodePoet

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    Was the patch ever posted?

    Good job on the article -- great info and tone. Nice to see how you work GR to get what you need.
     
  19. spaids

    spaids Forum Member

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    A GR2 User! YEAH! I'm not the only one! Thanks for the Patch.

    Mr Levi THANKS for the awesome tutorial. Its KILLER! :D
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    I just went through it all again.

    DUDE!


    This Tutorial is ALL WIN! :D :D
     
  20. mrlevi

    mrlevi Forum Member

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    Thank you All!


    I hope the tutorial helped you to learn more about GR and tone.

    If you interested ,you can listen my just finished song on Youtube:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbwyHuwZgx0"]YouTube- Levi Peto - Giggles of an Angel [ Amplitube 3, Stealth Pedal , Gibson Custom Slash SOV ][/ame]

    Let me know how do you like the Tone.

    I can create an other tutorial if you guys want.

    Levi
     
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