these three plugins (and Replika) all crash in Maschine and Komplete Kontrol, both in standalone and when loaded into Ableton when I attempt to remove them from the effects chain, funny thing is they seem to work fine until that point. I can see they all use D3D, and it's only these plugins I'm having issues with. As taken from another thread I tried removing the D3D drivers from the install folders (since they are already in windows) this seemed to work for some people but no luck here. I've read most (I think all) of the other threads where these plugs are an issue, but it seems that mostly they are about getting them to work period. Making sure my software is fully updated (Daw, Native Access, Windows and Graphics drivers) was all done before I came rushing here to post.... maybe something I've overlooked or maybe someone can clue me in to what I might be doing wrong... ?