Expansions , browsing issue !

Ok guyz ..i ahve all 3 expansions (my self gift for chrismas ...

First it sound great ...but something is veri annoying !

when i select a group , and load a kit , if i hit one pad (browser enabled) it deosn't show the sample location like it used to :

It does it well on True schkool !

On tansistor i have the list of what it's the kit but no focus on the sound !

And vintage heat : nothing except the browser displaying all samples !

Of course i checked if samples have tags , and it's the case ...also if i load manaully samples by samples on pads , if i cluck on the pad , now it shows the roots ...


So Anaybody can reproduce this ?

NI any words please , this is very very annoying for just changing one pad , i loose hell of time !

 

There is a thread on this below on this issue.
The quick browse feature is context sensitive based on focus. If you have group in focus then it will only be tracing groups or kits. Focus sound to trace sounds. If the sound is just a module you will need the modules button on for it to show the filters in the browser. If you focus the module slot to 2-4 it will only trace the relative module slot that is in focus so for samples make sure slot 1 is in focus.

Further, the quick browse function does not currently show filters for individual sounds if those sounds where loaded as part of a kit. It only tracks it as you load it so it will only show the group and you have to have group enabled to see that. It will still show the samples if they are tagged even if it was loaded from a full kit but it will not show the filters in the top pane. Not sure if it always did this or not regarding loading kits.

 

nope !

On regular maschine kits it's working great and also on the Expansion TrueSchool ...so this is issues with teh 2 others that have been not well implemented ...

Of course i know how to focus on a sound (as i said it's working for true School)

This is something that have to be solved ..i have a lot of gold baby samples and i didn't bought the maschine expansion to not have them "maschine" integrated ...!

 

Okay. Don't have those two so I can't check. Maybe someone else can verify if it's the packs or an install issue.

 

I noticed that the system requirements for True School mention Maschine 1.7 or later. The others do not. This leads me to believe that it's an issue with their implementation.

 

I just was able to reproduce the bug I mentioned we have been talking about in the other thread. It seems the quickbrowse feature is busted and has random behavior. I played with it for an hour yesterday and it worked perfect. Now I am able to reproduce easily.

For the expansion pack that is not showing anything you may be able to rescan the library location it is in and see if that helps. Either way there is certainly a random bug in the browser.

 

1.7.2 here did a rescan(first thing i did) ...issue with old version was not here if i remeber well ....

 

Did you come from 1.6 or 1.71? I will see if previous versions are working right when I get time. The other thread on this started with some saying the browser was doing random things with 1.71 update. Maybe the new update made it even worse?

I was wrong about this. This is where the bug seems to be. It works sometimes others not. Loading single sounds seems fine. Loading kits will show the kits fine in the group tab but the sounds in the kit do their own thing.

I wonder if it is an issue with kits saved with versions prior to 1.7 when the new database was introduced?

 

yep i think it's related to old pack made in 1.6 i think cause the only one working great is the last tru school .....

 

I finally cracked it!

From the manual:

I think most of us assumed that the quick browse feature would reveal all tags and filters for any sample or file in the Maschine database that has been tagged. This is not how it works! It only remembers the query you used to find the file before loading. Whatever filters you used to locate the file will be recalled.

When you save a kit, the queries for the sounds etc. of the whole group are remembered exactly as you went about finding them. If a sound developer used filters to load the sounds before saving the kit, then those particular filters he used will be recalled. If no filters where used to search for the sound then quick browse won't show any for that individual sound etc. of the kit.

To confirm, I loaded the same two samples to multiple pads using different filters to drill down to them. The same samples when triggered from different pads recalled the filters I used to load them to that sound. I saved the kit and cleared. When reloading the kit the quick browse showed the filters for the sounds just as I queried for them.

So there is no bug after all.

 

Yep this is the excat test i did (to see if it was a bug related to the search engine or expansios , even if you don't call it a bug ,i got you....so basically the only seriously made is true skool , and i don't think asking NI to push gold baby and the TP producer(witch is a real cool guy) to make a quik update , is something that we should ask for !

B thks for taking the time to reproduce my issue and to validate the fact that this is not "my set up only" , specaillaly this time before 25 !

So merry chrsitmas amigo and try to give NI this legit request , i do think 2 option can be done :

1) : update of expansions and to include this methodoly as THE way to make kits before saving banks , for all future packs ! (include this in "le cahier des charges")

2) to just propose two quik browse option :
... stricly tag oriented (the one we need/want here)
... and the actual one that trace the loading processus

Thks again , now let's make noise ! (creativily and also to NI ears !)

 

think i am having the same issue, heres the thread i started,

 

Your issue is a bit different. I am getting that same problem when the first filter in the browser is set to sound. Kits, samples etc don't have that issue. The "sound" filter seems to only work when in keyboard mode so that is the workaround. Not sure yet what the deal is with that. Maybe this one is a bug? Do you get that problem if you set the filter for instruments instead of sounds?

@Jeezo, I agree on #2. Seems it would be better to have an option to see all tags vs. just the last search query prior to loading. For #1, that is more work for the library developer. I think they just set up the tags to organize and don't have quick browse in mind. Would be an extra hassle.

 

Hi it's just on sounds, highly annoying, what do u recommend I do? Contact support?
Many thanks for your reply

 

Support contacted , do the same ...the more request the more chance we have to have it adressed ....

@ B : As i already made my own sets , the number 1) is easy ...it seems that they just load their samples from hdd location and they save it tagged ....the thing is that they don't import them first , then load them ...that's the thing

 

You can fill out a support ticket with the tech support link to the left. Be sure to describe it accurate with repro steps and stress that it only happens with the sound filter. Since it is repeatable that makes it easier to track down. Remember that using shift+pad mode to get into keyboard mode is a way to prevent it from clearing the query when playing the pads.