Exporting individual tracks WITH group & maste fx?

EDIT: *Master

Is it possible?

I like to work in standalone as much as I can, so i'll arrange, apply eq, compression FX blah blah blah but on individual export each track will only export with it's own fx.

On export I generally bounce each drum track, losing any group plugins like comps, crushers, vintage warmer etc.

Chopped samples I generally just bounce as a group but again, i'm losing anything on the master bus.

Synths and sound FX are bounced individually but could have any number of effects applied to the group which aren't in the exported wav's.

Is this a pain for anyone else?

Tracking with Maschine as a plugin is often too limited by having 16 outs. 32 would make things a little easier, i'd just like to be able to export individual tracks and groups and have the song sound the same in Studio One as it does in Maschine

How are you working round it just re applying everything again once it's in your DAW of choice?

I guess what would be perfect was something like 'follow to master output' check box in the export dialog which would basically go:

KICK pad --> GROUP --> MASTER --> And the resulting audio file will be the same as what i'm hearing in Maschine standalone.

 

I also use Studio One (love it!) and still have not found a good workflow.

I try to avoid using FX in Maschine and apply them later on in S1.
So this means i make a beat, use some vst´s and when i am finished i create a new song in S1 and drag the MIDI of the vst´s inside S1. Then i copy the settings of the vst´s i used in maschine manually (takes some time :/).

Afterwards i make a "beat-only"-version of my song in Maschine and use it as a plugin in S1 with muliple outs, so i can completely mix the drums inside S1. (at this point i start using Maschine just as a MIDI-controller - there´s an awesome template for S1 called "Maschine Extended Controls" on the exchange-server)

But i am still looking for a better workflow.
I love making music with maschine stand alone - but getting my stuff ready for the Mix in the DAW takes a lot of time.
Would be great if it´d be possible to freeze vst´s in Maschine like u can do in S1 - this would save a lot of processing power and would give me the opportunity to just export my stems as audio-files. So i would not have to copy the settings of the vst´s...

 

Trouble is, master FX works on the complete mix.

If you were to bounce down all your sounds separately with the master FX on them, what you'd end up with wouldn't sound anything like the same.

Stems ===> Sum ===> FX

will not sound the same as

Stems ===> FX ===> Sum

 

Yeah that is a problem that crossed my mind, I guess the only way it would work is if the tracks were exported behind the scenes like:

Each track exported with their own track FX, and looped back through the group to catch group effects, then groups looped back and ran through the master fx chain as a mix.

I imagine it would take longer to export but the time saved by re applying every plugin manually DAW side would be epic.

It would be the perfect way to export tracks for guys like me who want to stay in Maschine as long as possible, adding creative mixing FX as I go, but still want to mix/add vocals/master properly in a DAW.

 

You can resample them or drag'n'drop audio
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You've completely lost me here!

 

Haha sorry dude, I'm just thinking out loud the process of how Maschine would treat the files. I'll try and clarify:

Say I export my kick track as an individual track in Maschine. The software would need to render the kick and the FX applied to that pad. Then it would send the result of that back through the group, which would have group FX applied. The last stage would be all the groups, containing all the individual tracks being run through the FX chain I applied on the Master.

This would take alot longer as essentially all the audio is being rendered 3 times, but it would make sure that the FX from the individual track, the group, and the master are all applied to my Kick drum track.

It would also mean, as you pointed out, that group and master effects were not applied directly to one sound, messing up the result of say, a compressor placed on a drum group or the master.

Hope that's a bit more coherent, it's difficult to explain it outside my own head :lol:

 

You can use maschine as a plugin and record 16 tracks the firs time and the another 16 tracks the second time.

Change the output of the sounds in the out tab takes you one minute

I think its the best solution

 

yeah i know, but this would also mean, that i can´t change the sound anymore and can´t write automation - so this isn´t really useful if you just want to "freeze" a vst to save processing power. (and that´s what i love to do in Studio One ;D )

 

You can just disable the plugin (shift+button), then enable it again if you decide you need to bounce again, saving your CPU.

Although an actual 'freeze' function would be awesome - It'd render the audio for each pattern I guess, then 'hide' the plugin, unfreezing it would make it visible again.

 

Problem is still the fx on group and master won't dragged if your dropping just one sound not the entire group.

This really needs a workaround

+1............-1 nvm


Ok wait , mute all the sounds you dont to want to hear and then drag and drop/ export master track, only problem with this is it ll take a while to isolate all the sound you want with master fx, but it ll work I think.

So If you want isolated sounds with all fx chains, then export a master track with all unwanted pads muted.

 

As I usually export auido in this manner (bounce each group EXCEPT the drum group which I bounce seperately), I was wondering how to do this as well. Think I have to agree with the above post, just solo each pad you want to export and bounce that. Trouble is, each stem will be named as "Drums", "Drums (2)" etc... but I still think this is a good work around!

 

Bro, Maschine has a serious problem when it comes to exporting audio. They make this product so that you can do a whole song in it but make it so difficult to get it inside your DAW. There going to have to fix this problem because people who are real serious about music production are going to continue to complain about this issue.

 

This....

If you like the way it sounds in Maschine with the group and master effects applied, then just bounce it down as a single loop. There's really no need to have it separated into individual tracks if, like i say, you like it the way you've already mixed it.

Alternatively, just recreate the effect chains from your group and master Maschine outputs in your group buss channels in your DAW.
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Eh? There are countless ways you can get the tracks into your DAW.

You can drag and drop audio files, drag and drop midi files and then point the midi back at Maschine. You can export the whole song as a file or individual groups or pads as separate files. You can also just route all the parts to separate Maschine outputs and then "track" the song into your DAW's audio channels.

What other ways do you want?

 

hmmmmm. PERHAPS THINK BEFORE SUBMITTING.
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make the track as long as you want it in maschine, then open it as vst, hell open as many versions of it as you can - then add in your DAW what you cannot add while in maschine.

no need for exporting or worrying about stems getting fu**ed up

 

You registered here to rant about that topic in four threads now. Are you sure you bought the right product (Maschine)?

U MAD BRO?

 

Yeah it's cool I have some methods now; this thread has risen from its grave. I tend to either just make beats with Maschine standalone or use other programs now.

 

What about using send effects instead of using a master effect. you can fill a group with effects instead of sounds. Then you have to go to the "out" button of the other groups, and route them to the effect group. Its another way of applying the same effect to many sounds/groups, but the effect is applied separately to each sound/group, and hopefully it will export sounds/groups separately with the effect.