FCB1010 conflict - help

After reading the advice of several users in this forum I went ahead and upgraded to the FCB1010 pedal to replace the Rig Kontrol. I'm new to MIDI but did manage to get it to work...for the most part.

I can go from one preset to another within the active bank. I can program the two pedals to do wah wah in one and control say treble volume on the other within the same GR preset.

Can't figure out the following:

1 - Can you switch from one bank to another with this unit like with the Rig Kontrol?. If so how?
2 - Is possible to step through the presets one by one like with the Rig Kontrol. If so how?
3 - Biggest thing - I want to set an on/off effect in the middle of a song. I tried programming this but when I click on Learn, GR takes the MIDI CC code but it also changes to the GR preset of the same number as the footswitch used to set the effect. What do I need to do or is that not possible? I have no problems getting GR to learn the desired settings for both pedals.
4 - Is there an application for OSX that will allow to program the unit via software?

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Never mind.

I figured it out

 

Would you mind letting me know how you figured out the midi on/off effect with your FCB1010 - I'm basically having the same frustrations but I haven't figured it out yet.

 

Lethe.

Here is a note that someone posted in the FCB's user group in Yahoo. This explains how to use unit with Guitar Rig.

Good luck

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Ric,

Steph is right about taking the time and learning, but I also understand that
sometimes
things seem convoluted and just one right piece of advice might be all it takes
to clear
everything up.



The following is how I got my head around things and might be helpful for many
people
dealing with a lot of different scenarios with the FCB. I haven't read a lot of
the file stuff
or online help, so if I am repeating anything or stating the obvious, please
forgive me. I
did get some really good help from Pete Fowler and probably Steph as well, but I
have a
pretty extensive history with midi and computers already.



Most of what you are about to read assumes that you bought the unit new and
haven't
changed too much yet. It also assumes that you are not in Direct Select mode.



The FCB has one main performance mode and 2 configuration modes. One for Preset

Configuration, where you program each of the 100 presets (10 banks of 10) to do
it's
thing. The other is Global Configuration. You'll have to read about that
separately.



Each "preset" can send up to 5 program changes, 2 controller changes, 1 midi
note and
make available the 2 expression medals. If you are using the FCB to control 1
piece of
gear, then the capabilities listed above are much more than you need for any one
pedal to
do. In a new FCB, each preset is programmed to send 1 program change and
provide
expression pedal A as cc# 27 with a range of 0-127 and pedal B as cc# 7 also
with a range
of 0-127. The program change and the pedals send on midi channel 1, as
determined in
the Global Configuration. The program change number happens to correspond to
the
patch number in the FCB (ie. Bank 4, pedal 7 will send program change number
47). This
correlation is not hard wired.



If you are using the FCB to select "presets" or "patches" or groups of effects
in your DSP or
whatever you are controlling, then the "presets" as they are factory programmed
will
probably suffice. If you are looking to turn on and off individual effects
within a "preset"
on your DSP, you will have to program some of the "presets" on the FCB to not
send a
program change, but instead send a control change, or with using Guitar Rig,
I've found
that sending a midi note instead is the most efficient. (Guitar Rig can toggle
an individual
effect on and off by receiving the exact same midi note, where it will take 2
different
control changes to turn on and off).



This is where you get into Preset Configuration mode. This is that whole thing
where you
first select the "preset" that you want to program and then hold the "down"
pedal for 3
seconds. Now you are in Preset Configuration mode, which time all of the pedals
take on
new meanings (look at the small white lettering just to the right of the LED's).
The first
thing you do is to hit the "up" pedal which is now functioning as the "enter" or
yes button
to let FCB know that you want to program this preset. Once you do that, the
LED's of
some pedals will light. Typically, pedal 1, 8 and 9 are lit if the unit is
brand new and this
preset has not been altered. Remember, each pedal has just taken on a new
meaning and
now represent what is etched in the small white lettering next to the LED. In
this case,
pedals 1, 8 and 9 are telling you that this preset is sending 1program change
and that
both expression pedals are enabled.



If you want this patch to continue to send a program change but want to change
which
value it sends, hit pedal 1 quickly so that the LED blinks and the "up" for
enter. The
numeric display now is showing you what the current number of the program change
is.
Now you can select any value from 1 to 128 using the numbered pedals or the
expression
pedal to select the number. Then hit "up" or enter to complete.



If you want this patch to instead send a control change or a midi note, you
would first
press and hold pedal 1 until the LED turns off. Then press and hold the 6 or
the 7 until
the LED lights up. You are disabling the program change command and enabling
one of
the control change commands for this patch. You still have to assign a specific
control
change number and value to properly control the function on the DSP that you are
trying
to control. As Steph explained, you find this info on the midi spec sheet for
the DSP. To
enter this info, hit pedal 6 (or 7, whichever you activated) quickly so that it
blinks. Hit "up"
(enter). You first enter the cc# and hit "up" then the value for that
controller and hit "up".
Often the value is either 127 or 0 which will typically correspond to "on" and
"off".



Once you have the preset the way you want, you press and hold the "down" or
escape
pedal to get out of Preset Configuration mode for that preset. You have just
programmed
that one preset. Although I was extremely wording about the process, the whole
thing can
take as little as 20 seconds. I just wanted to overly simplify it.



You have 99 more "presets" that you can configure any way you want. Keep in
mind that
you can change the cc# and range for each of the expression pedals for each
preset. One
of the other users gave me the great idea to configure the top row (pedals 6-10)
to send
program change messages and pedals 1-5 to send control change messages. You
would
have to do that separately for as many of the 10 banks as you need to access the
"presets"
on the DSP or whatever. You will have access to as many as 50 different presets
using this
concept.



Programs like Guitar Rig, Reason and Ableton Live are so versatile that you can
use almost
any cc# as long as it is not being used by anything else. Guitar Rig has a
whole area on
the left of the interface that is dedicated to "learning" and assigning midi
controllers.
Again, Guitar Rig and Reason seem to respond most efficiently if you use a midi
note
instead of a control change to toggle effects and instruments on and off using a
single
pedal.



Understanding that when you go into the Preset and Global Configuration modes,
that the
meanings of the pedals change, is important to remember.



I hope this helps and I hope you continue to learn as much as you can on your
own. This
stuff is really cool.



Chris

 

jg,

Thanx! That was a big help. My idea of how to program the FCB was different than it actually is.. I think that's where I became confused. But it's all working great now. Thanks again!

 

Good for you!

There are many ways you can program the thing. The following is my setup per unit's bank. You don't have to do this way but it may give you ideas.

switches: 1-5 to go directly to a specific preset within active bank in GR
switches: 6-8 for turning effects on/off
switches: 9-10 to move up/down within a bank
Pedal 1: Wah-Wah
Pedal 2: Anything - Volume control, fade or whatever.

Note that the up/down switches on the unit don't send MIDI so you can't use them although you probably figured that out already. I did not see a need to program moving among banks in GR (it is doable). I just use the mouse for that. If I was to ever play live I'm certain that one bank with 128 presets will be more than sufficient.

Rock on!

 

Whew! I think for now I'll stick to using my FCB1010 to change patches and use the pedals, and leave to MIDI notes to my M-Audio Ozone. But thanks for this thread--useful info to have.

 

Hello everyone. I just got my FCB1010 pedal not too long ago. I can find out the simple things, like using the expression pedals for wah and for volume, and how to change all the channels, hands free. But I'm still extremely confused about the pedal. I want to know how to set the expression pedals to do what I want, and what all they can do. I'm also wondering if you MUST have a behringer product running through it to have it work. I don't know how to use the switch one and switch two things. Is there an Input and an output, aside from the MIDI connections? I just want to know more about it. Thanks everyone, g'day to you.

~Taz

 

Taz.

Not sure I understand what you really want to do. I use the pedals mainly for wah. But you can program it to slowly raise the volume of your amp or a specific effect using GR's Learn feature. I have also used it for doing volume sweeps from one speaker to the other (left to right or right to left). You can use it to control any setting in GR that has a value other than on/off. It works very well. No you don't need any other Behringer equipment. You just need a soundcard with a MIDI input. You can also connect it to hardware effects processor. It also has a MIDI in that I assume can be used for receiving MIDI commands however I haven't had the need for that feature.