Feature request ZERO X CROSSING

Since I am not qualified to post in the "Feature Request" area (how humiliating) I will put it here.
I use the Audio / Looping feature a lot, but spend way too much time getting rid of clicks. Other apps I use have the ability to loop at the nearest 0 degree crossing.
I will add another request related to synchronized looping and that would be a pre/post-record buffer. Sometimes I play behind the beat and the beginning of the phrase is cut off. a 20ms buffer would really help if we could just slide the sample a little toward the left please.

 

To post there you must have written at least 25 other messages.

https://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/feature-suggestions-rules.322171/

René

 

Thats to avoid people from joining the forum just to spam 30 feature requests without even reading the rules and then vanish, leaving a mess behind them that accumulates over time and makes the whole thing pointless. I can move this thread there for you if your want, just say so.

+1

For some odd reason only the Slicer has a zero-x crossing option, not even the normal sampling editor with a decade of existence has a zero-crossing option. As a workaround, you can try to use Gate Mode in the Audio Plugin since it has a Fade In/Out setting, around 2ms should remove clicks.

 

Please move it there...also can you pick up all the other "feature requests" that are posted in the "Music made with Maschine" board. I find it incredibly disrespectful to post demands everywhere, the board is to share music that people created and then stuff gets on top of it.

Personally the "Music made with Maschine" should be the Holy Grail of these forums...I see so many topics turn into some kind of rants, arguments and places to talk about other things besides music that I feel many people forget about making music or why we all bought Maschine in the first place.

 

I moved it.
It's probably people who don't quite understand the different forum sections, are there many? At 1st glance I didn't see much, you can always report a post for this kind of thing and Mods will see it when login in.

 

Yeah there is a few, I'll report them when I see them.

 

This feature request echoes my latest usage of Maschine.
I'm trying to use the looper as an actual recording audio looper with hardware synths and I keep getting clicks at the beginning of my loops.
Unless you use premade loops with zero crossing already set, it's really very annoying on actual live looping, and the tools provided are far from being fast. In no way, you can safely jam like that. There should be a zero crossing / auto tiny fades option when recording in the sampler .

Just to compare with competitive landscape : in the Octatrack, they give you a way to apply short auto fades on recording. In Ableton Live, clips can also have auto fades.

It looks like Maschine looper wasn't built for that purpose. I mean... come on. What's the point then ? using commercial loops ?

 

Using commercial loops in the looper doesn't make much sense since the feature is only available when recording, recording = the implication of original content... But the Audio Plugin (which the looper belongs too) was released with V2.7 in December 2017, guess what was announced a month later in January 2018? Sounds.com... So yeah, easy math right there.

Personally, I think it's a consequence of how development is managed, it feels like there are milestones, for example, "make a looper for the Audio Plugin" and once it's done it's scratched off the list and they move on to the next milestone, once people start complaining about details (lack of tiny auto fade in/out for clicks in this case) the priority is already some other milestone which is the new top priority and details about a previous one get pilled into a to-do list with now a lower priority... The result ends up being lots of unrefined parts of the software, this is the biggest issue with Maschine overall IMHO.

 

Hi D-One, thanks for your reply.
I'm going to post this FR into the beta platform (if not already there somewhere... I would be surprised if not).
You nailed it regarding the way priorities are handled, and it's VERY frustrating.
I have been a long time Maschine user (since MK2), I bought the MK3 when it went out, finally sold it because I was annoyed here and there for so many things.
Finally, re-bought one lately. I think it's a wonderful platform, the UX is great, the hardware is great... but when you want to go the extra step, there are still SO MANY things that falls short. It's crazy. I wonder if someone at NI really tested the looper as a live looping platform... ???? I mean, this is a glaring omission and you just need to plug a synth, use a long release patch and witness the issue right away. I suppose it could be reproduced by resampling an internal synth as well.
I was thinking about getting the Maschine+, to avoid the computer... but how could I spend 1200+ euros on it if we can't properly jam with our synths with it ? I'm better off with the MK3 for now.

 

That's how a lot of development is done. Some features are only secondary to the main function of a device and others are left as is depending on how many people use it and then get fixed only depending on how many people aren't happy with it. I remember some forums on Reddit where people asked for certain features and they got like 20,000 upvotes but then the moderators pointed out that it's less then 10% of the entire user base.

If not a lot of people use a certain feature and then even less find problems with then then it gets pushed down on the priority list.

Development = man/power x man/hours.

Octatrack is a sampler, without samples it's an empty box unlike Maschine, so no wonder it relies on features that are refined to a better degree. But when I had my MK1 Octatrack years ago I remember not many people used the looper, even though it was heavily advertised. I personally didn't even know it had the option to apply auto fades. Back then on the forums most people recorded their samples before hand then edited them and normalized them in Audacity before exporting them on to the Octatrack's memory card.

 

Thank you for moving the post.
So far Maschine's Audio plug in is my favorite method of recording live audio, but stopping to make little fades really kills the mood.
One solution is to never play on the down beat or sustain a note past the end of the pattern. Not a very good solution.

 

+1 for this feature suggestion.