Feels like Maschine is going the "abandoware" route....

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by RobLo, Dec 25, 2019.

  1. RobLo

    RobLo NI Product Owner

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    Is it just me??

    Hey while I'm whining.....any chance for internal MIDI routing? :D

    Merry Xmas and Happy Holidays to all
     
  2. ShelLuser

    ShelLuser NI Product Owner

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    It's just you :)

    Can you be a bit more specific btw? There are multiple ways to route data and thus also different things to achieve from it.
     
  3. kb420

    kb420 NI Product Owner

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    "Abandoware"? Really? There was just a bug fix 16 days ago. Why do think it's being abandoned? I must be missing something. What am I missing?
     
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  4. Mystic38

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    while i don't agree with the "abandonware" topic, "internal midi routing" is certainly specific enough.. ;)

    its been a request around here for almost a decade...lol

     
  5. RobLo

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    Minor fixes yes....but I believe Maschine will be dropped and no 3.0 just a new product.

    *If* so, it's anyones guess how long support will last for Maschine.
     
  6. ShelLuser

    ShelLuser NI Product Owner

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    It's not specific enough. See, this could be established in multiple ways so what really matters is knowing what one hopes to achieve with this.

    For example... if I want to trigger multiple pads using the same MIDI input one could argue that this requires MIDI routing. Fact remains though that this feature is already supported, yet not through MIDI routing but by combining pads together as a group. It's not officially MIDI routing but it does achieve the same result (within this context).

    Ergo: "Midi routing" is much too broad.
     
  7. HammyHavoc

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    VST3 support has been added. I'd hardly call this abandonware. I'm expecting a 3.0 in 2020, or at the very least a preview of what's to come in beta.
     
  8. RobLo

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    from plugin to plugin, you cannot route internal midi.

    If I want to use an arp plugin and send the midi data to another sound VST..... I cannot do that. Unless there has been an advance I am unaware of.
     
  9. jbuonacc

    jbuonacc NI Product Owner

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    nobody cares what you "believe". so tired of all this "... has been abandoned" by people that have no damn clue.
     
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  10. RobLo

    RobLo NI Product Owner

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    You cared enough to whine about it
     
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  11. ShelLuser

    ShelLuser NI Product Owner

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    It's you who opened up the gate for people to express their opinion about it. Just because someone doesn't share yours and is negative about it doesn't automatically imply whining.

    If you ask for opinions you should expect (and respect) both sides of the fence: those who agree and those who disagree. If you can't handle that then... maybe not start the whole thing in the first place?
     
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  12. RobLo

    RobLo NI Product Owner

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    He absolutely has a right to his opinion....just like I have the right to tell him his opinion sucks. Inalienable rights are an amazing thing aren't they?
     
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  13. ShelLuser

    ShelLuser NI Product Owner

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    Now who's whining? ;)

    See, I never claimed otherwise so this response kind of.. well... I dunno o_O

    And then we get into the infamous never ending loop so yah, not in the mood for that ;)
     
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  14. RobLo

    RobLo NI Product Owner

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    Well, maybe YOu should have left it alone....like you did when I answered your inquiry about internal midi...it was easy enough then, no?
     
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  15. ShelLuser

    ShelLuser NI Product Owner

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    And now I came to form the opinion that some of you guys have no idea what you're talking about. And credit goes out to MaschineGun for pointing me in the right direction (here).

    So let's talk MIDI routing again..

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    So what would you call this? Here you clearly see an ability to route "signals". Either to the host (the underlying DAW) or... yups, towards another pad (or "sound"). Isn't that... I dunno... like routing MIDI data internally from one pad ("sound") onto the other?

    Anyway, this is the part where I raise my hands and slowly walk backwards out of the door while shaking my head :cool:
     
  16. kb420

    kb420 NI Product Owner

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    Abandoned products don't get minor fixes. If you don't believe me, go and ask any former Project 5 user.
     
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  17. kb420

    kb420 NI Product Owner

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    When was VST3 added?
     
  18. AL’DREAD

    AL’DREAD NI Product Owner

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    Update before last I think
     
  19. Mystic38

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    in your opinion... and probably only in your opinion..

    look at the feature request threads, do some research, go back to threads from 2, 5, 8 years ago and internal midi routing has come up again and again.. and yet.. you are probably the only one to go down the path of assumption that you chose.. for everyone else it was noted and accepted to be from plug to plug...like was obviously pointed out by RobLo.. but go ahead, load up a midi plugin and enjoy...

    so yup..its your opinion..for everyone else it was specific enough

     
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  20. AL’DREAD

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    You could achieve that via midi with maschine in midi mode