FM8 64 bit is sounding really bad, unlike 32 bit

Libraries ARE separate installs within the Komplete installer - as you can select which ones you want to install or not, and you can set a different location for all the sample libraries in the Komplete package. And as each library has its own Documentation folder that is always within the library root folder (so it can appear on the "info" button menu on Libraries tab), that's how it is.

 

Man, you complain a lot Just use Spotlight and type "Vintage Organs Manual". Why waste time looking for any file manually?

 

xD you're so funny

 

So I should shut up and not say anything when I see something that is illogical on NI's part? So I complain a lot - that's your opinion and your problem, not mine. And you probably never complain and everything is hunky-dory with you? I doubt it.

 

It's getting really tense in here

 

I'm somewhere in between. To keep complaining about logical developer's choices, while you can solve your problem in 10 seconds using Spotlight, will make you very tired though. Choose your battles wisely. You're not the only one who's fed up with NI discontinuing products. 2 yrs ago I figured a letter of 120+ angry customers would be enough to convince NI to make Maschine koresound compatible or at least provide koresounds for new products as long as the guarantee lasted. Didn't help.

 

I don't play the 'choose your battles' idea. If I see a problem I'll talk about it (call it complaining).

 

I solved my searching for the manual problem years ago by placing a folder on my desktop call Manuals! I immediately place every new piece of software’s manual in that folder.

 

The problem with this is that people will start to ignore your posts as they say, "Oh, a post from Jack. I already know EXACTLY how it goes..." Then, when you do have a worthy point, they won't pay attention.

 

Not my problem. If people are THAT shallow I don't need or want them in my life. That's the nice thing with choices - I can choose to ignore someone or not as they can with me. No one is forcing anyone to read someone's post. That's why some forums have an 'ignore' button so you can ignore a poster.

 

But, unless you are talking just to hear yourself, I assume you want someone to listen to the point you are trying to make. And, if nobody is listening, then isn't it sort of a problem at that point? Otherwise, if nobody is listening, and you don't care if they are or not, why talk at all?

My point is, the boy who cried wolf may not have cared that people stopped listening... until the wolf came.....

 

It's only complaining if you go on after the problem is solved. Your problem with the drawbars was caused by not reading the manual. ED solved your problem with the drawbars. Then your problem was you didn't know how to find the manual. ED helped you to find the manual. Then you start complaining about your manuals not being in the same place, blaming NI for your problem. ED explained why the manuals are not in one place. Then you blame NI for not being logical, while it's a logical decision and you can still find the file using Spotlight. I'd be very thankful for ED's patience in your case, if he clicked the ignore button after your beta-tester remarks you would still have your problems

 

Like I said - if people are shallow enough to ignore me because I 'complain' then that's not my problem or emotional issue to deal with. And people that are that shallow I don't like to deal with anyway.

So even though my issue has been solved I should just shut up and not comment on how the situation could be made better? If people did not do that you'd never have any progress. I'm never satisfied with the status quo if it can be made better or more logical. I shouldn't have to wade through pages of Spotlight results to find something. What's so wrong with wanting to have all the documentation for NI product in one place?

Either way I'm done with this part of the thread.

 

No need to wade through anything, Spotlight does that for you. Click on the magnifying glass top right and type "vintage organs manual", it'll be your top hit. Another problem solved

There are loads of reasons for not having all manuals in one place, but let's not go into that

 

Sad that users are arguing with each other here. The anger originates from the fact that NI have ignored glaring faults and bugs in FM8, or at least appear to be ignoring them as evidenced by the dire lack of updates and bug fixes.

I come back here from time to time to see if there's any progress and usually there isn't.

I, and everyone else here with a bad temper, has paid for software that remains faulty.

I have simply opted to never spend any more money on NI products. After this kind of experience, I'd have to be a complete fool to expose my workflow to further dangers and complications. If FM8 ever gets repaired, it'll be a nice "gift".

Sad that a company treats its customers so badly and indifferently.

 

Well said, Musos. Very well said.

 

Agreed. This isn't freeware here and some of us depend on the software to work like it's supposed to and when it doesn't we have a right to be angry.

 

Sucks they don't have much competition. I'm also in a weird place where I've spent probably $600 on individual products and they won't give me a discount on Komplete. Pretty discouraging along with the lack of updates. I'm having all kinds of issues with production companies though, Live9 is hella slow and buggy. Maybe it's just me.

 

Na, it's not you. It's the only point of Musos I disagreed with. Software is buggy by definition and any change usually causes new problems to the stability of your system or at least to your workflow. Compared to NomadFactory or Sibelius (Avid) NI does a pretty good job, but Logic, Waves, VSL and even IK Multimedia have far less long standing bugs and crashes.

Spending $600 on individual products is understandable, but to save money you need to choose between buying individual products during 30% or 50% discounts and waiting for the next Komplete and upgrade when the upgrades are 50% off.