For the love of god can we customise the GUI ?

I personally have no problem calling a shovel a shovel. However it would be better to make your point in a less confrontational matter. Have you noticed that in all the threads you started you seem to spend more time defending your way of saying things instead of getting a productive discussion going on the topic. Even you thread topic I find blasphemous. I find myself agreeing with some of what you say but I'm not prepared to discuss my ideas because I find your tone insulting.

Try to lighten up a bit. I think you'll find it a lot more productive.

 

i agree that the traktor interface could be improved, I've been thinking into it and made a new layout, that merges the advanced tabs, gives you 16 hot cues and no more dropdown menus, and you can see everything all the time, which is important since fiddling with a mouse during a live set is basically a no no.....

Any chance of an option like this in version 2.1 ? pretty please ?

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0By...MDJkYTc3NWI3MWRl&sort=name&layout=list&num=50

The crazy thing about it is, guys making comments about looking at the screen less etc. fine if you are just playing one tune back to back, but to do anything a bit more complex you need to see what you are doing on the screen, and that means constantly switching from move to cue page, and so much space is wasted.

If you think back to version 3, almost zero effort went into the layout, those terrible tabs across the top of the screen in mutliple sections. Just a mess.

I don't see why all the move, cue and grid sections can't be merged into one. It took me 15 minutes in photoshop, its not a big deal, only a lack of thought from traktor... we are only talking about the GUI here, its not a question of real functionality or coding, just the GUI.

You are right to call them up on it and say it like is, some people are not poltically minded, but unfortunately the world laps up smooth talk and doesn't go for rude.....

 

@wwzmach, don't use it if it p*sses you off so much.

There... all dealt with.

Next caller please!

 

And did some 'dj' say it's 'just the GUI'!

Jeesh guys suggest your changes by all means but don't presume an element of a piece of software which has to display, communicate, interact, sell, compete, empower, attract, interpret all the elements of functionality to and from the user is 'just the GUI'.

That's just stupid and ignorant. I'm sorry to be blunt. I do apologise if that makes someone feel insulted. But it's a daft thing to say.

Just make your suggestions but don't belittle a key element and major factor of software design. Please.

 

actualy Jaydub you are wrong. my points are really only related to the GUI. The display of the functionality, is not the functionality, its only how you interact with it and I don't think that Traktor have put quite enough thought into fine tuning the GUI. The software works great. The engines that time strech and compress the audio are seamless, amazing... so many good things.... 10/10, but why then ruin it by throwing together a clumsy and badly thought out GUI. It inhibits my creativity, when I have to keep hoping pages and changing tabs. I don't want to be using the PC, i want the songs in it, the software and its displays, functions etc to be clear. You can't keep the move page and cue page open at the same time, Its crazy. Cue points are essential to me. The meter at the top is tiny, now they decided to hide the metronome and the recorder, and they call that an upgrade, and they want to charge money for it ... come on.... its sad.....

I don't want to stop using traktor, not least beacuse there is nothing else on the market that competes with it very well, Itch is not as good. Things like Ableton Live are not real DJ softwares.

I was going to do more or less what SmthLiam has just done and photoshopped the interface to show how easily a few things could be moved about.

plenty of other people have agreed with me on this issue and the fact that some guy can come on the forums, throw up a rejigged layout in what he says was 15 minutes and what would have taken me about the same amount of time is just laughable....

How many staff and how many thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars went into Traktor 2, and a guy can come along and fix its issues in 15 minutes... come on techies.... pull your finger out, you should hire this guy :-> He's just made a fool out of you.

 

Understanding the way a GUI has to connect with the functionality and be flexible enough to cater for all monitor and setup eventualities is very involved and difficult. Not dissing the efforts posted to show how people feel it should look but I think the whole thread is not getting the tasks behind developing a good GUI. Think of it like the tip of the iceberg in that what you see has a he'll of a lot going on under the surface. I'm not about to highlight issues with any 'alternatives' because as you say it's probably not taken someone ages to do and that wouldn't be fair.

Best thing to do is feed in ideas and requests rather than bitching I reckon.

 

My contribution regarding the Global Section:

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135384

 

Jeez, do I loathe the: "If you don't like it don't use it" comment

Obviously, everyone here invested in the software (time and money)
so annoyances may be discussed - in a non annoying way.

There is a lot of room for improvement in regards to the GUI (quite literally)

- 1920 X 1280 Needs to be supported, including most other 17" and 15" resolutions
- 4 FX should be displayed at once
- Advanced modes should be merged to one panel
- Waveform display is pretty, but less usable to glance then previous waveforms
- Recording panel could be integrated small in top of screen, same display as output.
- A display mode for all us DJ's that never use a mouse (we don't need play/ cue buttons)

 

+1

 

Of course I totally get that! But raise it in a constructive way, like you did Marc.

No point in doing it in an aggressive, ignorant manner when there's no real appreciation of the task in hand.

Yes it can be improved, and I'm sure it will be with constructive input instead of ranting.

 

Hi Jay,

I get your point - things should not be brought annoying.

(sometimes I get annoyed myself: http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135974)

Thanks for helping to keep manners up in this forum!

 

I'm not without the odd outburst myself man!

Peace!

 

Agreed with that!
We should at least be allow to have 3 full decks (and samplers) for instance.
The layout "improvement" photoshoped and posted earlier is actually pretty nice, i must say!

 

Im all for GUI improvements and certainly agree there is room for improvement. Personal preference though is traktor ranks pretty high in GUI design vs the competition.

I do realize your dislike to the spectrum display and do agree you should be able to default it or define your own spectrum ramp colours. But lets face it... spectrums are a great way for us to analyze information in not just a scalar(dB) based display but also freq properties using colour.

Secondly you talk about protools, audio engineers, not needing spectrums something something... You forget this is a different application of sound and we need to see whats coming before we hear it, and not just how loud it is. btw even apps like protools had plugins that used spectrums... as I used then back in the 90's as an audio engineer. This was specifically for frequency analysis

eg. http://img78.imageshack.us/i/preview2midbh8.png/

I really don't know if all the requests for colour waveforms are because of a genuine reason or just because it looks pretty (I wonder as some of the colour prefs seem to appeal to the latter) - but if you just look at the extra information and process it and use it, you may discover it will help you.

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