Gate and Grain Cloud.

Hi gurus!

Still a mystery to me. In the manual it’s called Trig and >starts next grain.
The big Q is what is the next grain?
In the hints box it says <=-1 suppress it.

I have tried to connect all sorts of things to the G input but so far it only repeats a small part of the sound file and start point is controlled by St.

Sending a 0 amplitude sine wave makes it possible to adjust grain length with predictability but as son as one send a amplitude value everything falls apart (repetition of a very short grain………)????

Is there someone that could point to an ensemble where the G input is used……


HELP!!!!!!..............................please :-=

 

Originally posted by yoyofish

Hi gurus!

Still a mystery to me. In the manual it’s called Trig and >starts next grain.
The big Q is what is the next grain?

It seems you are lacking an understanding of granular synthesis. Perhaps this grain cloud tutorial will help you get it on a more intuitive level:

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?id=1180&ftu=057355c9fd

I have tried to connect all sorts of things to the G input but so far it only repeats a small part of the sound file and start point is controlled by St.

That is expected behavior. You must modulate St if you wish to move through the file.

 

I know Im stupid......

Hi John (ande everyone else

It seems like you don’t understand my Q .

I have been working with granulation for the past couple of years In Reaktor, CDP Max/Msp and GranuLab, but I don’t know everything and I definitely don’t understand Grain Cloud:s G input. So please answer my Q instead of telling me I’m stupid (I know I’m stupid you don’t have to remind me)

G(ate) simply doesn’t play NEXT grain when receiving a positive value, it plays the SAME grain (at the St position) , and it seems to play lots of grains on top of each other, the lager the positive value to the G the louder volume (because of the overlaying of grains?)….still confused….

 

Re: I know Im stupid......

Originally posted by yoyofish

Hi John (ande everyone else

It seems like you don’t understand my Q .

I do understand your question.

So please answer my Q instead of telling me I’m stupid (I know I’m stupid you don’t have to remind me)

I did answer your question, and I never said or thought you were stupid.

G(ate) simply doesn’t play NEXT grain when receiving a positive value, it plays the SAME grain (at the St position)

Next refers to the next grain generated in relation to time, not in relation to position in the sound file. If a grain is currently active, and another grain is about to begin, then that grain is the next gain, even if its playing from the same spot in the sound file.

 

the answer

Let me answer myself

-A possitiv input to Grain Cloud G input start the sample at the St position.
-Grain Cloud G input accepts an Event input.
-When using G to trigger a grain, Grain Cloud always play the whole grain (grain lenght controlled by the Len controller).

Attached is a gif file that gives you an ruff idea of how Grain Cloud G can be used.

P.S
John I didn’t mean to be rude, my apologies (I did include smilies)

 

The gif file cant be sent....

Cant attache a gif fil, it is simply ignored....?

 

Re: the answer

Yes... I'm using the grain cloud in granite (see post "previewing instrument"). To actually listen the sample, as John said, you should modulate the start input... try with a ramp oscillator.

 

This is surreal.

 

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...surreal....

dont understand...

 

Re: ?

Just go with it... trust me.