Getting Patterns from Maschine into Live, drag and drop

Can someone please explain this to me? Saint Joes video just confuses me. I dont know what LoopBe is I want to jam on my Maschine and then move the building blocks (Patterns) from Maschine to Live to construct the song there. That is; I want each pattern from Maschine to act as a clip inside Live, preferably just by dragging and dropping

 

I already told you this, you don't need loopbe, you can drag the midi from maschine into live just fine, or if you want to drag audio you can do that

loopbe is for people on the pc who want to use a virtual midi cable, you're on a mac, that doesn't apply to you

what are you wanting to drag into live, midi or audio? Decide which one, set that as the pattern drag option, and drag your data into clips.

if it's midi, then you'll need to open maschine as a plugin and point the midi back to maschine from the live clips, if it's audio you can just build your song like that from the audio patterns you drag/export out of maschine into Live

 

I just got a PM from Ivan77, and I think Saintjoe explained this perfectly well...... please read the manual, Ivan77. It is very easy to drag-n-drop patterns into Live, as either MIDI or audio. You do not need LoopBe (and you're on Mac, so you can't use it anyway).

 

not to hijack your thread ivan77, but saintjoe, i run maschine with ableton as the sequencer with all groups coming into ableton. now, all my midi goes into ableton so there is no midi data in maschine, just the sounds. i was wondering how you would get your drums out of ableton into something like pro tools on a separate track if they were all part of the same group/clip. in another thread you said to drag and drop the audio from maschine, but there is not sequencer information in there, everything is in Ableton. many thanks if you can help me out, google searches haven't worked out for me so far.

 

if you are using Maschine this way ( as a module) then everything is handled by ableton, thus, you have nothing to export (separate) from Maschine. So it won't work the same. You'd need to sequence your drums on separate tracks, or copy the clips and delete all drums but one in each track you need so you have separate midi tracks pointing to separate sounds.

Basically....if you're using Maschine as a module, then you don't get the benefits of Maschine exporting your sounds/stems, it would be just like using kontkat or any other module, if you can't route everything to it's own output in ableton, you're not going to be able to separate all your drums.

you could mute everything but the drum track, rout your drums to the 8 outs, and record them as audio clips into an audio track in ableton.

 

Wow I didnt expect to see a thread like this because I'm having the same problem with drag and drop, except I'm using reaper on the mac. I do all the sequencing and have all my sounds in maschine, but I just want to use reaper to make the song.

Joe, yeah I have watched basically all your videos about reaper, I have your 'maschine tracking out like mpc' up right now. I can do this, but this is not what I'm looking for, I just want to take the audio patterns and use Reapers linear sequencer to make a full track. Your video doesnt demonstrate this so I was wondering if you can help me.

P.S. I am on a mac.

edit: No I don't use midi as far as I know, but can someone please explain what the difference between 'audio' and 'midi' on the maschine? It's all on the computer so I really don't understand this. Thanks

 

guys, if you just want to drag audio loops out of maschine all you have to do is make sure your drag mode is set to audio, click the little arrow things by the group name, and drag your loops into your daw.

It's really simple to do, especially if you just want to drag audio, it only takes a little work if you want to drag midi into your daw and have it point back to maschine, etc.

audio drag and drop = drag the audio and drop it.

If you can't get audio drag and drop down, just use the export feature in maschine to export all your audio into individual wave files.
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it has nothing to do with "on maschine"

audio and midi are totally different things, period. Audio is sound, you can hear it, midi is data, you can't hear midi, it's only used to trigger stuff (sounds) so you can hear them.

I suggest you read up on the difference between audio and midi if you really don't know the difference.

 

Finally got it saintjoe. You got me when you mentioned the four arrows, I didnt know thats how you drag n dropped. thanks.

from reading, i understand what the difference in concept between midi and audio to some extent, but I do not completely understand the logic. why would you drag the midi track rather than the audio? They play the same thing in the daw right? this is what confuses me. thanks

 

awesome!

midi = if you want to drag the actual sequence data into your daw, so you can edit further, or make changes to the sequence, and have it trigger maschine as a plugin or if you want the midi to trigger other synths/instruments in your daw

audio = if you're happy with what you have and just want to use your daw for arranging, or you just want to add your own loops to whatever you're doing in your daw. For the most part, once it's audio, you can't really make any changes, if it's midi, you can change it all the way up until you "render" it as audio, but in order for midi to be useful, it needs to be pointing at something, you can't just drag the midi over and expect to hear sound

 

+ the good thing about either method is you can see Dragged n Dropped files as Regions in your DAW, so it make it very easy when it comes to Arranging your track.

not sure i agree with you about Audio. With Elastic Audio and Flex Time, there are still some creative possibilities. even small things like deciding reverse one bar - as an example - are there to be used.

sowari

 

yeah you can do basic audio editing, you can't make changes to your patterns, or create change ups like you can with midi

when folks ask me this question, they almost always throw in "I want to be able to edit my pattern data in my daw, I want to be able to edit the notes and make changes to the patterns in my daw"

that's why I said it

in it's basic form, midi is more flexible then audio, I don't think there are many who would argue with this.

sure with tools like warping, melodyne, etc, it's becoming more flexible to work with audio, but it's not as quick to go in and change the location of notes, the actual note values, etc, in audio, like it is in midi. It's not as simple to be able to copy the data and remove an entire hi hat sequence, or remove a snare sequence, etc, if you're working with audio.

with audio you're pretty much still tweaking/morphing what is already there