GH!... Still confused about guitar strums!

This message is directed to GH, though anyone is welcome to respond.

GH, I had previously talked to you about a script for the K2 guitars where you use the left hand to select maj/min/etc mode, and the right hand to play single notes, which would be converted to a chord and the appropriate CHORD sample played (not a bunch of single guitar string samples, but the single chord sample).

You had mentioned that the K2 guitars had 2 scripts, and that I should bypass the first to get the type of thing I'm looking for, but when I look at the scripted accustic guitar, there is only one script (which plays a sequence)... so I'm not sure what you were referring to.

BTW, I'd even settle for a script that allows you to play chords with whatever hand, and it then recognizes the chord and plays the appropriate CHORD sample (again, not individual string samples, but the sample of the chord strum).

Turning the script off on the scripted accustic guitar leaves you with a chaotic mapping of crazy guitar samples, with no aparent logic.

It's a shame that there's not a bank/multi (or whatever you'd call it) where you have the single guitar strums mapped on one part of the keyboard, then major chords mapped on the octave above that (ex. sample of Cmaj chord strum on the C key), then the minor chord samples on the octave above that... Seems like a simple-to-play performance multi... I wish someone would make it. I'd give it a shot, but I'm new to Kompakt scripting.

 

Have you looked at www.attitudei.com It is guitar chord samples that are set up a little differently from what your talking about, but similar. There is down strokes and up, short and long.I wonder if these samples could be set to trigger the way you want. I would be interested in somthing like that. Also, experiance has some kind of strum scripts, but I have not had a chance to try it. Also what is Steinberg's guitar program like?

 

Thanks, Collin, I'll check that out...

But, am I wrong in thinking the way I outlined would be really easy to use? Since guitars have a limited range, you don't need the whole keyboard... and the chords just need one octave each. I'm just surprised no one hasn't set it up this way. The K2 scripted guitar is okay, but a little akward to have to trigger the chord after you have selected it, rather than it triggering on selection... plus it must look a bit of a mess if you're sequencing it.

Granted, I fully admit I do things differently than the norm... for better or worse...

 

Hi,

do you have the last update from kontakt? It updates also the acoustic guitar that plays Chord. Only in this update there are two possibilities to play the guitar, but only in the "big" and the "all" version.

Load one of them into kontakt, click on the left button to edit. Then click on script editor. You will then find "Accordguitar" and "Keytrigger". Click on accordguitar, then on "bypass" to bypass the script. Click on "Keytrigger", then on bypass to non-bypass this script.

Now the left hand selects the Chord (c-2 to B3), the right hand (C4 to D6) plays the samples.

Regards
Ralf

 

Ralf,
I'm not finding any of this. "big-all"? I'm not seeing this in kontakt. Do I need experiance? I seem to have Kontakt fully updated.
OK, found it under KSP instruments. I'll mess with this. -Thanks

 

I'll check on my update status for K2 as well... Thanks guys.

 

Collin,

you will find this in the Kontakt 2 library, especially under "02 - KSP-Instruments. Klick in the browser in the upper window on "02 - Accord guiitar", then you will see in the lower window of the browser five different accord guitars. The samples are the same, but the size is different.
You will find:
Acoord guitar. nki
Acoord guitar (mini). nki
Acoord guitar (small). nki
Acoord guitar (big). nki
Acoord guitar (all). nki

Select one of the last two (big / all)

The sound is graet, I use it very often, selecting with the left hand the chord, and playing the style with the right hand.

Regards
Ralf

 

I'm not the best piano play, so I tried step recording the chords to a standard (Body and Soul) which has a lot of changes, then adding the strum rythm. This works sometimes, and sometimes I'm getting wrong chords. sending all notes off from my sequencer does not help, however if I hit play over and over eventually it will fix itself. I have not as yet seen a pattern, so I'm not sure if accord is at falt or not. Any Ideas?

 

You should take care, that in steprecording the information concerning the chords should be a little bit before the midiinformation concerning the strummrythm. Remember that kontakt needs a little bit time to react.

When I play C1 for C-major and in the same time C4 für strumm down, sometimes it happens that kontakt plays a wrong chord, in fact it plays the last chord i selected before.

So, when i step record a part in Cubase for kontakt accordguitar, and have finished the record, then I select all the Chordinformation and move them some (about 20-30)ticks to the left, that they are a few msec. before the struminformation. And then it works great.

Regards Ralf

 

I slid everything a little ahead before doing the strums. What I'm getting sounds like hung notes, I've also made the chords short so there is at least an eighth note rest between chord entries. The chords are complex flat 9, diminished etc. but when akkord gets off it reads really complex chords flat 9 add 13 and more. If I deleat akkord and reinstall it all is well. Then again sometimes it fixes itself. Go figure.

 

Check out the Strummer ksp script posted on the Kontakt. I am the author and it does some of what Akkord does but far simpler to use.

Let me know what you think.

 

Sorry for the typo. The Strummer KSP script is on the download of the Kontakt User Library.

 

Hi Ralf,

I got selecting the chords with the left hand, But how do you change the style with the right hand? The upper part of the keyboard doesn't respond.

Thanks,

Tony