Giga import not 100% usable

I was planning to partially move from Gigastudio
to Kontakt...

Now I imported the SteinwayB from EastWest into
Kontakt and got a totally different result than
in Gigastudio, different in the meaning of "sux".
It's a bit hard to describe how it sounds like
in Kontakt but one could maybe describe it as
phase problem :/
This doesn't happen with the Boesendorfer Piano for
some reason. But since the SteinwayB is my personal
favourite and since it sounds totally crap played
with Kontakt I will HAVE to stick with Gigastudio...

I'd really like to know if there are maybe some
other Giga samples with which happens the same
once converted to Kontakt...
I hate to admit it but I'm pretty disappointed!

 

The reason you're hearing phasing is because, for some reason, Kontakt duplicates a couple layers, what you want to do is go in and delete the 2 groups in Kontakt that are just a single velocity velocity layer instead of the 3... I think it's groups 1 and 3, the other 2 groups are the real, multisampled piano (you'll actually see the 3 layers in the Mapping Editor). One of those layers is pedal up, one is pedal down. I did that and it sounds fine.

Jon

 

There is a patch for the EW Steinway B Piano for Kontakt that fixes the import problem. Its an nki file that looks for the samples. You can find the patch at the northern sounds forum:

http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/ultimatebb.php

Hope this helps.

Best,

Martin

 

http://www.belfort-musique.com/EW_S...for_Kontakt.nki


1) import your Steinway B into Kontakt
2) rename your sample directory "EW_Steinway B_4.0_for_Kontakt"
3) copy my .nki file in the same directory

And you have a Steinway B with 8 velocity and good filters in Kontakt

Regards,

Olivier


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Olivier, Belfort-Musique

 

Similar fix for Gigapiano?

Hi all,

I just crossgraded to Kontact from Giga with the knowledge that Gigapiano does not import cleanly but that it can probably be fixed.

Does anyone here understand enough about what is wrong with Gigapiano to post an NKI patch?

I notice that 1) release samples sound bizarrely like key down samples, and 2) phasing effects caused by more than one sample being triggered per note.

Thanks,

Mike

 

This problem can be solved by turning on and then off the "Rls Sample" button located on the Source module.

Still haven't figured out a solution for this one.

 

WOW!
Thanks a lot guys. I didn't even expect there
would be an official solution for this.
Now I'm a happy chappy again

 

BluesWest,

I really don't think you are fixing anything by toggling the Rls Sample button. I think you are further damaging the sample. If Edit All Groups is enabled and you toggle Rls Sample, you are turning all samples into attack samples, which creates more erroneous voices for each key down. Now you have NO release samples and more attack voices than you should (reason for the phasing...notice that a single note takes 3 voices!...there's duplicated sample zones in there somewhere.)

mgarrett

 

Hmm, I think you may be on to something here. This may account for the problems I am encountering with improper voice-stealing and absurd CPU usage - each key is eating up much more polyphony than it should, causing voices to drop out. I end up trying to deal with the obvious voice-stealing by increasing the the polyphony setting, but that simply puts more and more stress on the CPU until the system freezes.

There must be a simple way to get rid of the duplicate samples. I sure don't want to have to re-build this piano from scratch by importing and mapping each sample manually.