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Gigastudio imports

Discussion in 'KONTAKT' started by markwayne, May 5, 2006.

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  1. markwayne

    markwayne NI Product Owner

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    Well, things are improved with regards to Giga imports in K2.1 for me. The lite version of GS 2.5's piano now comes in as a playable instrument. It doesn't sound the same as it does in Gigastudio, but it's a whole lot better than what was happening. The full gigapiano also comes in better but is still not playable due to the 127 velocity samples getting mapped where the resonance samples belong. (The note release.) So now, note-ups trigger a loud note sample instead of the resonance sample.

    I think we are, at least, moving in the right direction,
    Wayne
     
  2. garth@chickensys.com

    garth@chickensys.com NI Product Owner

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  3. garth@chickensys.com

    garth@chickensys.com NI Product Owner

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    I looked at "NemeSys_1GB_Grand.gig", and the Instrument "1GB Acoustic Grand w/ Resonance Model". This file is 678,381,398 bytes large, and I believe it is Giga2 format.

    The release samples on Pedal Down are NOT resonance samples, but the ones on Pedal Up are, and they are mapped correctly (as well as the others). When I loaded the piano, sounded pretty good here, no thumps or anything. except what you'd expect.

    Can you give more specifics, or better yet, just report it in at http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?id=suppform_us
     
  4. markwayne

    markwayne NI Product Owner

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    Yes, I have reported this. Interesting that you don't have a problem. What happens if you hit a key with a velocity of 127? I get a pedal down sample of the same pitch triggered by the release of the key. Definitely not kosher. I got this two times in a row, but 'll try it again later today to be sure. A number of other imports have gone much smoother however, so I'm happier overall. Still would love to be able to bring in my Yamaha A5000 sample library.

    Wayne
     
  5. garth@chickensys.com

    garth@chickensys.com NI Product Owner

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    To NI Support, via the Support page, since the 2.1 release? I don't show it up there; perhaps it's in queue, but I don't want to ask about it unless I'm sure.

    Never mind though, I just put it in the main bug base as a formality. I wanted to mention it because there is a sticky on the forum about how to report bugs -I don't mind perusing the forum "weeding out bugs" but it would cut down on my tie if anyone who had a bug simply went to http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?id=suppform_us and typed in exactly what they type in into this forum. That systemizes the request and it's a lot easier to respond

    I gave the byte size of the file, doe sthat match up?

    I do too, and it sounds fine.

    The instrument setup is like this: there are 4 velocities, the highest being 127-127 (weird, but hey). That velocity uses one sample for the pedal up (normal), 0504VU.wav, and another sample for the pedal down 0504VO.wav. Each is also used for the release trigger for their respective pedal states. (Neither are from the resonance group, BTW.)

    That's how the Giga instrument is set up too; I'm sorry, I don't see a sonic problem or a structural issue either. To see for yourself, simply delete all zones other than one (like middle C), then use the List View of the Mapping editor to see things clearly. The Groups are named so you can see what does what.

    Again, if you converted a different .gig fiel than I, that may be the issue. Look at the file sizes and let me know.

    Those are the CD's that came with it, right?
     
  6. markwayne

    markwayne NI Product Owner

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    I have not had a chance to try the import again. Yes, the file sizes do seem to match up so I'm pretty sure we are talking about the same instrument. Maybe something is going on with my controller. I ended up editing the instrument to get rid of the offending sample maps.

    Yes, I'm talking about the large library of sounds that were often bundled with the Yamaha A4000 and A5000 samplers (some really great stuff!) as well as a couple of libraries I purchased in that format. It's the last hardware sampler in my rack, and those sounds are the only reason I keep it around and put up with its slow loading and noisy fan.
     
  7. garth@chickensys.com

    garth@chickensys.com NI Product Owner

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    Thanks...

    I'm checking through the GigaPiano II's that come with Giga3 as well. That's not what you tried, right? it was the original GP?

    Thanks for the mention for the Yamaha stuff, when it's mentioned, it makes it just that much more fo a priority. Don't mention it, then it's saved for last. I'll see what we can do. At least pulling the sounds off DOS is easier then the funny disk format they have.
     
  8. markwayne

    markwayne NI Product Owner

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    I'd love to be able to get my Gigastudio 3 pianos into Kontakt but something about the convolution settings or somthing seems to be screwing those up. So, yes, I meant the pianos bundled with GS 2.5.

    I don't know if it helps but this guy seems to have sussed Yamaha's propietary disk format and has posted it online. I used the little app he built under OSX and have been able to browse and copy samples off my Yamaha CDs.

    http://ieee.usask.ca/members/snorum/
     
  9. jeremiahhorner

    jeremiahhorner New Member

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    Was there ever resolution to this? I'm experiencing similar problems.
     
  10. garth@chickensys.com

    garth@chickensys.com NI Product Owner

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    Yes, there was. What problems are you having?
     
  11. garth@chickensys.com

    garth@chickensys.com NI Product Owner

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    No, he just did the File Format which is NOT the disk format. Plus, he just did the arrangements of the files, not the innards of those files.
     
  12. jeremiahhorner

    jeremiahhorner New Member

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    Got your reply in my other post.....thanks for the help!
     
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